Indy Tear Down

[Larry Hill]

Who should go to the barn?

All factory showdown cars, If the ahfs does not apply to them, they need to pay some kind of price to get into the race.

#1, #128, #1 alternate, winner and runner up of classes of ten cars or more. New parts cars; cars that were given new parts: heads, carbs, the forty year old cam find, or what ever else in the way of new parts.

The worst sandbaggers.

[Wade Mahaffey]

I don't have any experience in the "teardown mode", but will have before to long I think. I have requested the ability to sit in on some teardown operations. I would like to become familiar with the proper techniques and procedures on "what to check" and "how to check". I believe that tech officials only have a limited amount of time and resources, and should direct their attention toward the most likely offenders. To me that would be the faster folks. An example would be: a police officer pulling over someone that looks like they could be a bank robber, while the bank across the street is actually being robbed:. In other words, if there was a prize to be found in an illegal combination, would you waste your time looking for it in a slower entry? I have never heard anyone say about a slow car "that SOB is cheating", but that would be funny! Of course the most fair way is for everyone to be checked, but is not realistic here. It seems to me that if you are real fast, then you probably can teardown in your sleep.....everyone thinks you're cheating....go to teardown, and confirm that you are "THE MAN". Then you should'nt be subjected to the barn again until your combo finds another 3-4 tenths somewhere. That way you're not in there every year while others skate by. I think there should be a value on how far under you are....say -80...that would be used to determine if they would like to look at you. Any time you achieve that, you are placed on the list for teardown consideration. If you're the 3rd or 4th fastest car in class in the country, you probably don't care if the 9th or 10th fastest car is cheating or not......BUT YOU DO CARE IF 1 and 2 ARE!

Wade Mahaffey

[John Duzac]

Wade, I can tell you that if you applied that thinking on your bank robbery theory, that would amount to Profiling. And if an arrest was made, No Probable Cause exists. Result: sued for false arrest.
You are right in your thinking that the fastest folks should be takin apart. All class winners should come apart.

[Pedigo Perf]

Originally Posted by John Duzac

You are right in your thinking that the fastest folks should be takin apart. All class winners should come apart.

Why would anyone want to run class if you had a tear down for the prize? It already pays nothing. I agree that random tear downs should be done on the faster group of cars or with any protest, but when was the last one of those.

[Rick Schilling]

The fastest cars would naturally be more suspect, but if the slowest car in a qualified field such as the U.S. Nationals is cheating, and someone who is perfectly legal does not make the field as a result, then that changes everything.

[Chad Rhodes]

If you are going to do limited tear downs, why not use the average for a combination as a guide. For example, if you have 7 396/375 cars; 3 are slower than the average, 3 are slightly faster than average, one's off in his own zip code of fast. That's a good indicator that he should be looked at.

[Alan Roehrich]

For what it is worth.

I talked to 3 good friends, who also happen to be current or former NHRA tech officials, all of them well liked and respected, who said they found more illegal cars in the bottom 10 of the field than in the top 20. A lot more.

If you think about it, being really fast is just inviting a tear down. There are a few cars that are extremely fast that have been torn down by respected tech guys and found legal, more than once, but are still accused of being completely illegal, even by guys who you'd think would not be fooled.

[west coast]

I don't think there is any slow cars at INDY, if you can make it in your fast maybe sandbagging a little just to get in. I think anybody in the field could be in the barn. Just my opinion I am I the only one that thinks this way?

[Wade_Owens]

I think when you pull through the gate at a race as big as Indy, you should have some say on who goes to the barn. Here's how easy that is. When you go to the tech trailer with your credentials, and your running Stock or Super Stock, you get a blue teardown card. Write a competition number down for your enemy, foe, record holder, guy who smarted off, doesn't matter your reasoning, that would be one vote for that car. NHRA tallies that up Wednesday night, then includes the #1 Q and whoever else they feel needs to be there. Post a sheet for how many lucky votes you received by Thursday night and there you have it. I have been back class racing since 2007, there are some very fast cars that have never been in the barn, but somehow, the same guys seem to go over and over. We all know at least 1 car that needs to go, why not help them out. One thing is for sure, it is not random right now......

Wade

[D.Johns]

^^
I don't like that idea as that would be more of a vote for popularity contest. People would be getting voted in just because others don't like them personally. I've seen guys get protested just simply because some one wanted to cause trouble for them that weekend in other series(person admited to that). If a person feels strongly enough that someone else is not following the rules pay the money and protest them.