Both or neither this week in Phoenix!!!

[Toby Lang]

Well, on the flyer it says you can tech for race 2 at 8AM on Friday. Kenny says one thing and you say another. I would think they would pit and tech people only running race 2 on Friday, but maybe not. If so, you can work on your car, visit your buds and maybe watch a little racing. Sure it would be nice to be able to run just the first race, but as Jack said, it would be tough to keep track of.

[ss wannabee]

Originally Posted by Doug Blackley

I normally don't comment on these kinds of posts but this particular post has boothered me since I read it earlier today. This has to be the most insensitive and ignorant posts I have read on this forum in some time. He is not alone in this current economy that have either had to cut back or sadly park their race cars. You don't know everyones circumstance and to say it in that way is down right rude. Perhaps he or his wife has been one of the millions of laid off workers out there and let me tell you, it's absolutely an employers market out there and the wage offers reflect it. Many of us have seen household incomes shrink to less than half of what they were just four years ago while working more days and longer hours just to make less.

Agree with you 100% Doug...and also want to say that some of those prices...crew passes and spectator...are a tad bit too high...given the state of the economy..

[James Perrone]

Gary for your info the nearest track to me is 123 mile away E-town.My problem with you is you are the biggest cryer on the forum.NHRA is the only option most of us have all you do it tear it down..You never say anything positive related to Class Racing..You have no class..internet whinners like you are not racers ..but you blow hards get stuff done....got to be in it to win it..Just stop bashing or move some where they will book in your fwd wanna be class car as a top fueler..you still wouldt be happy..whaaaaaaaa whaaaaaa..
By the way I think this is the last race at Phoneix ..good luck to all the Racers Racing This Weekend.. stop the CRYING

[BKSG1198]

James,

From what I heard Charlie Allen is out as Manager of Firebird and the Tribe has taken over. Rumors from some friends that were at the National last week was that they kept saying on the PA "NHRA will be back at Firebird in 2014". The Tribe is supposed to be putting 15 million into the racing facility to bring it up to standards.Went there in 2008 and ummm makes you appreciate everything we have out here!

Rob

[Harry 6674]

Originally Posted by Doug Blackley

I normally don't comment on these kinds of posts but this particular post has boothered me since I read it earlier today. This has to be the most insensitive and ignorant posts I have read on this forum in some time. He is not alone in this current economy that have either had to cut back or sadly park their race cars. You don't know everyones circumstance and to say it in that way is down right rude. Perhaps he or his wife has been one of the millions of laid off workers out there and let me tell you, it's absolutely an employers market out there and the wage offers reflect it. Many of us have seen household incomes shrink to less than half of what they were just four years ago while working more days and longer hours just to make less.

Ok Doug don't get your panties in a wad. I apologize if you think I was rude. I was just stateing what I have had to do. If I can't afford to do something I either find a way to make some extra cash or I go a different direction. I'm not going to whine about my failures as a bread winner. My wife is good at that. All Gary does is bitch about NHRA. He has never said anything good about it. Granted it is getting out of hand but the only thing that will change it is cars staying home. Don't see that happening. NHRA is all I've ever had so I know nothing about IHRA. Sorry to get you on the chip.

[Mile High]

Originally Posted by ss wannabee

Agree with you 100% Doug...and also want to say that some of those prices...crew passes and spectator...are a tad bit too high...given the state of the economy..

Last year I bought tickets for Saturday at the Nationals at Firebird online then I went back on Thursday of the first divisional. I told friends I'd come back to see them before I knew how much it was. A few weeks later I got an online survey from Firebird asking what I thought about the races and stuff. I let them know that I thought the spectator fee along with the concessions were way over priced. Crew shouldn't get gouged either. Do you wonder why there isn't anyone in the stands to watch you? If I can't race I'd like to go watch but that's getting too expensive.

Jeff

[FINESPLINE]

Originally Posted by James Perrone

Gary for your info the nearest track to me is 123 mile away E-town.My problem with you is you are the biggest cryer on the forum.NHRA is the only option most of us have all you do it tear it down..You never say anything positive related to Class Racing..You have no class..internet whinners like you are not racers ..but you blow hards get stuff done....got to be in it to win it..Just stop bashing or move some where they will book in your fwd wanna be class car as a top fueler..you still wouldt be happy..whaaaaaaaa whaaaaaa..
By the way I think this is the last race at Phoneix ..good luck to all the Racers Racing This Weekend.. stop the CRYING

Hey James, you didn't explain to him how hard and expensive those 123 miles are. LOL ___John

[Bob Don]

I, for one, would absolutely LOVE to be able to run 2 divisionals and get 2 grade points in one weekend!

[Casey Miles]

Down here in south Florida, we have a different problems with the N & IHRA. Granted, we have the double up races for IHRA, I went to the IHRA points race at PBIR and there wasn't a sufficent car count for them to run their program. On the other hand, NHRA, the closest track to a points race is 300 miles away. When you have to work on Friday (because of the economy, there is no one to back fill your job) and you want to go to the points race for NHRA, you might get a one time run in before eliminations. So you travel through the night and possibly travel home the following night because of they way they run their races. So here is the question you have to ask yourself, do you chance spending all that time and money going to the sanctioning bodies races or do you just go bracket racing locally?
NHRA and IHRA should see the writing on the wall that the economy is eating away at our wanting to participate. Modify the entry fees, a 15 to 25% cut across the board. Also, the scheduled run times should accomodate the racers who have to enter on Saturday.
Make sure that if a racer is showing up Saturday, that the catigories they race in get 2 time runs before eliminations. Become user friendly!
I not whinning, I want to race the N and IHRA points races. Time is the main concern for me, but for some people it is the entry fees.
I have 5 IHRA sanctioned race tracks within 100 miles, so I do have choices on where to go to race.

Casey Miles
248H "F" NHRA Stock!

[Dennis P Chapman]

Originally Posted by Bob Don

I, for one, would absolutely LOVE to be able to run 2 divisionals and get 2 grade points in one weekend!

x2 on that.