Copo camaro on racing junk

[GUMP]

Originally Posted by C and W Racing

If anyone actually buys one of those at the prices they are asking, the buyer has to be completely on drugs.
Chuck

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2012-...orcev4exp=true

[SPS]

Originally Posted by joelster

I have yet to hear a complaint about the "build" of them from an owner, so I don't know what you are basing that on. Sorry they can't pop out 8-second racecars like a Pez dispenser to satisfy haters like you. I'm guessing that the first batch took an extra long time to make sure that everything was done just right, who knows. I'm just happy that the big-3 are all out there at the racetrack.

Obviously, you don't know me or my years of involvement with Super Stock and the manufacturers, so comments of a "hater" are simply ridiculous!

I have been involved with and built racecars from all 3 manufacturers, and I too am glad to see them all involved.

I'll take your comments as coming from a keyboard wannabe racer who doesn't understand the sport or comittment and leave it at that.

Any further comments can be addressed to me at my shop -- not hard to find me.

FJ

[GUMP]

Originally Posted by SPS

Any further comments can be addressed to me at my shop -- not hard to find me.

http://www.smithperformance.com/

[FINESPLINE]

Originally Posted by GUMP

What makes you say that?

Not pointing my finger at you as I know that you are racing yours but as seeing these cars on a few sale sights already ,the people who bought them had no intention but to flip them (@ outrageous prices ). When you are building 69 cars that can be had with 3 engine packages the odds go up of all of them ever seeing the racetrack. Did GM do a good job separating the speculaters from the racers ? I guess we will find out in the spring.

[FINESPLINE]

Originally Posted by GUMP

What makes you say that?

Not pointing my finger at you as I know you are racing yours , But maybe GM should have filtered the speculaters from the racers in a better way. When you build 69 cars with 3 engine options, The odds go up for all of them getting to the track. Just my thoughts as they are trying to be flipped at outrageous prices.

[GUMP]

It is really hard for a manufacturer to keep cars away from the speculators. I think that Chevrolet has done a very good job of getting the cars to racers. But, they can't do anything once the car leaves their custody. The story on the red car that sold is pretty sad (IMO).

Keep in mind that quite a few people purchased their cars to race outside of Stock and Super Stock too. So don't expect to see them all at NHRA/IHRA/ADRL events.

Also of note is the fact that very few of the Mustangs and Challengers are seeing much action compared to the numbers built.

I am sure that a lot of Chevrolet dealers tried to buy a COPO and were refused!

[ChevyII]

You tell'em FJ!

Mike

[FINESPLINE]

Originally Posted by GUMP

What makes you say that?

Did GM do such a good job separating the speculaters from the racers ? Hard to believe there people already trying to flip them when many people have not even received their yet !

[C and W Racing]

Gump, whats the story on the red one that sold? I must not have heard it, or because my memory is getting bad, dont remember anything about it.
Chuck

[Lew Silverman]

I think it's basic economics that when something is offered as a "limited edition", some folks will try to make a profit on its resale. Chevrolet obviously didn't require the initial purchaser to sign an agreement not to resell the vehicles, so this is what happens. You may not agree with how it's being done, but it's not illegal, just business as usual. Part of the problem may be the build sequence not being done in numerical order, which must be frustrating to those still waiting for theirs to be completed.

But one thing that was mentioned does make me wonder - why would someone purchase a limited-edition, 1 of 69 (or 68 if you don't count the SEMA Convertible) 2012 COPO and NOT race it in IHRA/NHRA/ADRL Stock and Super Stock? I've been told that some of the cars are being modified to run in other classes instead of where they were originally designed to run. Wouldn't it have been easier to purchase a BIW and build a COPO clone than modify an already assembled race car? Am I not getting the picture here?

Lew