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Old 11-28-2010, 06:17 PM   #21
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Gee thanks . I guess I know where Travis , Ryck Campbell , Wayne Lewis and myself stand now after all the hours of teardowns we put in this year !
Dave.....He must have been talking about IHRA....LOL.
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Old 11-28-2010, 06:36 PM   #22
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Gee thanks . I guess I know where Travis , Ryck Campbell , Wayne Lewis and myself stand now after all the hours of teardowns we put in this year !
I was not directing to you guys personally. I was only stating that the higher ups reverse most of the decisions made at the race tech level.
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Old 11-28-2010, 06:45 PM   #23
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Travis, I do believe I detect a little bit of tongue-in-cheek.
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Old 11-28-2010, 08:09 PM   #24
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I didn't say that. No me. I been in the barn too many times. One funny story, a few years back I got both my full size trucks in there. I'm done with one, got the other apart and am checking stuff. I'm tired, I have had no beer, I'm grumpy, and Travis is checking my truck. I think we were checking deck height. I could not get the thing to check, hell I couldn't get the thing to stay on the block. Travis finally told me "Why don't you get out the way so I can do that and get out of here." I walked away, found a beverage, took a breather, and walked back. Travis said I had .002 to spare and in less than 10 seconds showed me why I could not get the thing to work. And there are some funny ones from Orlando over the years. One year I am through with the numbers, but hadn't started reassembly yet. The Tech guy and me walk over to Jim with the card, and in only Jim's way, he asked "This is it?", I said "Yep, all done.", He says "You sure?", "All Done.", and only Jim could say, well you better start again because this won't pass. I looked at the card, noticed the math was completely wrong, and shamefully walked back to the truck and started measuring again.
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Old 11-28-2010, 10:04 PM   #25
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Travis,a race like you suggest would only cause more resentment towards the guys running these runaway HP factors.When the racers (and NHRA officials) see what some of these cars are capable of they'll be at the door of NHRA HQ in Cal like the mob in the freanenstein movie,screaming for somebodies head.
Dave Ley,we all know and appreciate the job you local tech guys do.It seems the foot
dragging comes from upstairs.
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Old 11-29-2010, 09:32 AM   #26
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Travis, What a great idea. I would run them at every available race.
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Old 11-29-2010, 10:01 AM   #27
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Travis, What a great idea. I would run them at every available race.
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Paul,seeing that you have one of the cars in the middle of all the HP fiasco I guess you would want to run races like that.
But,if you had a car like mine,that on a real good day is an .80 under car,would you be so enthusiastic about plunking your money down?
I guess the arguement would be for me to just not enter a race like that.But it doesn't take away the fact that some run away HP factors need to be corrected.
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Old 11-29-2010, 10:07 AM   #28
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Boy, tear downs have sure changed since Red Anderson! I never measured anything. Just took it apart and got out of his way. You measure your own stuff now?
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Old 11-29-2010, 12:59 PM   #29
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Travis, In the spirit of your humor I will bring a Turbo Dodge stocker and eliminate any chance of another form of car entering. That should alert you to the fact that "fairness" here is related to the basic Flaws of the factoring system not a dial in on a window.
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At least at the CIC race....we can see what these things can run.....think about that....it will be good for at least 50 pages....lol
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