Ford CJ's and Mopar DP's NHRA is now on the case

[danny waters sr]

Answer = AA/FI + BB/FI and AA/FIA + BB/FIA and maybe a CC/FI if needed . let them have at it .with the right weight break they could all pretty much run these classes....... Just a suggestion for NHRA.....That would even be a fun class to watch.

[Dgal]

Originally Posted by Charley Downing

And as far as FX classes go get out of the 1960’s this will never happen and it’s a stupid idea.
This is my question to all of you. Is there any form of motorsports that allows old cars to still be competitive over new cars?

I don't see what is so stupid about the FX class. These cars are Factor Experiments. Seems a natural extension to what they are producing.

Your last question is misleading. There is not a single person that suggests the old cars to be competitive "over" the new cars. Just a level playing field like they made with the fuel injected cars in the past.

Doesn't seem like a difficult concept to grasp, IMHO.

Don

[Dgal]

Originally Posted by Charley Downing

This is my question to all of you. Is there any form of motorsports that allows old cars to still be competitive over new cars?

Wait! I thought of one. Nostalgia drags! You can't race a new car. Pre-1980 or older. There ya go.

Don

[Greg Hill]

Originally Posted by Charley Downing

The only real problem NHRA has is listening to all you ***** Clowns from day to day cry about how it’s not fair. This is what is going to happen if you all don’t quit crying. NHRA is going to make STK for 1980 and newer fuel injection cars ONLY. I’am not blowing smoke up you’re ***** this is a real good possibility and one of many solutions on NHRA’s white board. NHRA is sick of hearing about how someone’s car is not as fast as everyone else and how it’s not fair. You people are killing yourself and don’t even know it
And as far as FX classes go get out of the 1960’s this will never happen and it’s a stupid idea.
This is my question to all of you. Is there any form of motorsports that allows old cars to still be competitive over new cars?

Charlie, all you want is to continue to have an unfair advantage over your competitors. You talk about us crying, that's BS. When did standing up for what you believe in become crying. These new cars are wrong and 90% of stock and super stock racers think so. If something isn't done you and about 30 to 40 owners and drivers of these new cars will be racing together by yourselves.

[Richard Grant]

Don't try to scare us with threats! Many have parked them already rather than pay travel cost and entry fees only to be outrun by a tenth in a headsup race.

[Dgal]

Originally Posted by Greg Hill

Charlie, all you want is to continue to have an unfair advantage over your competitors. You talk about us crying, that's BS. When did standing up for what you believe in become crying. These new cars are wrong and 90% of stock and super stock racers think so. If something isn't done you and about 30 to 40 owners and drivers of these new cars will be racing together by yourselves.

That is the only compelling reason to justify the current classification of these Factory Experiments. The ones that support them must feel they need this advantage to go rounds.

I think you are a little low on your percentage. The poll here shows that figure, but I have yet to run into one person that races stock/super stock, their crew, or their family/friends that feel these cars are classified properly. I even know one crew member of a Drag Pak that complains more than anyone about these cars. He is there for the trip to races, but he shall remain nameless for his own protection.

Don

[lstanford]

Originally Posted by Dgal

That is the only compelling reason to justify the current classification of these Factory Experiments. The ones that support them must feel they need this advantage to go rounds.

I think you are a little low on your percentage. The poll here shows that figure, but I have yet to run into one person that races stock/super stock, their crew, or their family/friends that feel these cars are classified properly. I even know one crew member of a Drag Pak that complains more than anyone about these cars. He is there for the trip to races, but he shall remain nameless for his own protection.

Don

Question of the day. Who took polls before the same six guys on the internet????

[dwydendorf]

I would be real careful about disagreeing with Charlie D. Just when you think you are think you are safe, out of the blue Charlie may decide to make a U-Turn with the Downing Farms Gator and run your a** down. Even if you thought you were on the good side of him it might happen to you. Sorry Charlie I couldn't resist that one.

[treessavoy]

Back to the actual thread:

I find it interesting that they are hitting the Mopar's with HP but no mention of the CJ's which are running as much as one second faster than the other cars in the same class.

History, and the NHRA, repeats itself. In the '70's the NHRA legislated the Hemi out of Pro Stock but left the Fords and Chevy's alone, now it looks like the NHRA is once again zero'd in on Mopar's but not the bogus Fords.

You Ford guy's should look at NASCAR history. Bill France decided the Hemi's were too fast so he outlawed them with a stroke of a pen and the NHRA did the same thing in the '70's.

Why aren't the Fords getting hp? When the Fords first came out everyone was yelling the roof off about how they were too fast and would ruin Stock racing but now the Mopar's are getting the hp and all the bitchin while the Ford's continue to make AA/SA, A/SA their own little play ground.

Before all you Ford guy's bust on me, remember, I think both cars should be in SS just like the '68 Hemi car's.


JimR

Just to add fuel to the fire: I think if the Thunderbolt's are allowed in stock then the '65 A990 Hemi Mopar's should be allowed to run in AA/SA.

[Wayne Kerr]

Treessavoy,
You have the best idea I've heard in this whole deal, Let the '68 Darts and 'Cuda's into Stock as well as the A990, L88 'Vette's and other bad ***** musclecars to tangle with the DP's and CJ's. Plus you would cover the new 'Vettes as well.

The heck with the A/FX classes, just slide the alphabet down where "A" is 6 or 6.5 lbs/hp and start the 1lb breaks just a couple of letters sooner. Whala!, no additional classes that the few remaining contingency sponsors have to pay out contingency money for.

See you at the races,
Wayne Kerr