Competition Plus DP and CJ article

[XSTOCKER]

The new cars are the future. The 40 year old cars don’t seam to be bringing in any new sponsors or factory involvement like the new cars are. Face it, NHRA isn’t about racing anymore, it’s a business. Better learn to embrace the new cars, they’re here to stay.

[Bruce Noland]

Originally Posted by Bobby Bennett

I debated long and hard whether I was going to respond to this.

The bottom line is I wrote an article intent on discussing the latest trend in Stock and Super Stock racing. I wanted to give these classes some much needed publicity. It wasn't intended to focus on what was right or wrong with Stock and Super Stock.

I interviewed Brent with the specific question, why he brought out these cars. It had nothing to do with factoring or anything. I figured if a man had bought ten of them, he was certainly qualified to speak on the matter.

However, there will be another article, not sure when, discussing what is believed to be the unfairness of these cars competing.

For many of us this article appears to be more publicity for the new cars and, Stock, not so much. I hope you do write a new article about the fairness factor of these new cars in Stock. It would be nice to think that your discussion would include some of the racers who have been adversely affected by these new cars. Do you think this article will be out before the end of the year? Thanks.

[B Aceves]

Originally Posted by Bobby Bennett

I debated long and hard whether I was going to respond to this.

The bottom line is I wrote an article intent on discussing the latest trend in Stock and Super Stock racing. I wanted to give these classes some much needed publicity. It wasn't intended to focus on what was right or wrong with Stock and Super Stock.

I interviewed Brent with the specific question, why he brought out these cars. It had nothing to do with factoring or anything. I figured if a man had bought ten of them, he was certainly qualified to speak on the matter.

However, there will be another article, not sure when, discussing what is believed to be the unfairness of these cars competing.

Well you guy's must be on planet Mar's if you think putting a article out like this now was not going to stir the pot even more. So you think that its something that is just BELIVED to be the unfairness. It sounds to me that your just as Quailifed to write this article as Hajek is to own or even quote about these, EPIC Failure on your part. Congrats!!

[Alan Roehrich]

Bobby, with all due respect, I take serious issue with this statement in your article:

In the Stock division, half of the top twenty qualifiers were in the purpose built street legals cars.

While I suppose, to some degree, I can appreciate the "publicity" for Stock and Super Stock, some real honesty and facts would have been nice. Mostly what that article constitutes is some favorable publicity for Chrysler, Ford, and NHRA, at the expense of the rest of the participants.

I look forward to your next article.

[Andys dad]

Originally Posted by Andys dad

Advertising fraud and misrepresentation is against the law.

Perhaps Ford, Chrysler and NHRA are guilty of duping the public to sell cars.

It took years to put these combinations together from an idea on paper to reality.

AA classes and lowering the indexes was part of the plan.

Too coincidental if you ask me.

The corporations had to see an absolute return on there investment or they would not have spent the millions it took to develop these combinations.

This is about selling cars not racing.

Follow the money (or goods, or travel perks).

Something is not right with all of these people showing off there 'stuff" to make us upset.

It a big sham to sell cars.

Think about it.

I am gald to see that others are finally getting it.

[novassdude]

Bobby please explain what research you did on the article as I find issue with these three paragraphs.

Over the Labor Day weekend at the NHRA U.S. Nationals in Indianapolis, forty percent of the top twenty qualifiers in the NHRA’s Super Stock and Stock divisions were comprised of either these Mustangs or Challengers. In the Stock division, half of the top twenty qualifiers were in the purpose built street legals cars.

As I understand it none of the cars are street legal.

“They [NHRA] were very accommodating,” said Hakim. “We worked very closely with guys like Danny Gracia and Bruce Batchelder in making sure the cars met the requirements. I can say I was very proud to be a part of that program.”

One look at the HP ratings tells you how accommodating NHRA was.

And for the manufacturers and the NHRA, there exist a growing sense of pride in returning to their roots of fast showroom cars meeting the horsepower arena of the drag strip.

I checked my local showroom there was not one any where to be found. Not to mention the Challenger would have to go down the track on trailer if you want to go from the dealer to the track. The Challengers at my local dealer are not approved by the NHRA to race.

[Bill Howell]

I think I can make a comment from both sides of the fence.
42 years ago, long before bracket racing, after getting beat up every week heads up in my 57 T-Bird, I bought a new 4-speed 428 Cobra Jet Mustang. And at my local tracks, (Augusta, Blaney, Jackson, etc.), it went a whole year without getting beat in it's class. There was no break out and all class runs were heads up. You had to win class to race in the eliminator. Of course, all the old timers (that were not nearly as old as I am now) hated it. Then in 1969, I got another 428 Mustang that I still race and it was the same way for a while. Now, of course, it doesn't have much of a chance in a heads up race, but it did have it's time. I still have both cars and they have great memories with them.
40 years later, I get another new Cobra Jet Mustang that's hated by the modern old timers. It's time is now but history will repeat itself and something else will come along that's faster, which is the way it's always been.
Also, if anyone wants to qualify way faster under the index than any CJ or Drag Pack, I know of a cheap mini van for sale.

[Greg Hill]

Originally Posted by Bill Howell

I think I can make a comment from both sides of the fence.
42 years ago, long before bracket racing, after getting beat up every week heads up in my 57 T-Bird, I bought a new 4-speed 428 Cobra Jet Mustang. And at my local tracks, (Augusta, Blaney, Jackson, etc.), it went a whole year without getting beat in it's class. There was no break out and all class runs were heads up. You had to win class to race in the eliminator. Of course, all the old timers (that were not nearly as old as I am now) hated it. Then in 1969, I got another 428 Mustang that I still race and it was the same way for a while. Now, of course, it doesn't have much of a chance in a heads up race, but it did have it's time. I still have both cars and they have great memories with them.
40 years later, I get another new Cobra Jet Mustang that's hated by the modern old timers. It's time is now but history will repeat itself and something else will come along that's faster, which is the way it's always been.
Also, if anyone wants to qualify way faster under the index than any CJ or Drag Pack, I know of a cheap mini van for sale.

Bill, the big difference was that the original CJ was only 40 hp under rated instead of 100.

[Dean Roberts]

There is no such thing as a 2009 CJ, they are either 2008 or 2010 models. Poor research on this one. Also, the DPs and CJs are not street-legal, no less street legals.

[Dgal]

Originally Posted by Andys dad

I am gald to see that others are finally getting it.

....and it isn't working. Camaro has outsold the Mustang 12 out of the last 15 months. May, June, and July had some heavy incentives that brought the Mustang sales up, but in several of the cases the Camaro outsold the Mustang and Challenger combined.

Don