How the factory "Package" cars may save Stock - Page 3

Chris "drooze" Wertman · 01-08-2010, 11:21 PM

Ok, dont get riled because I dont know jack...

But Ive read all the reasons of doom and gloom for an arena Im just starting to race in....to me, an outsider, and a business owner....heres how I see "the bright" side of things.....

So.....I just want to share it, I have heard from others they feel the same, but havent read (much) of that here.

I am going to offend some, because I "dont know" what I am talking about. BUT What I am is a) Younger than most here b)may have a fresh (naieve) perspective c) am bored outta my mind sitting here in this damm room.

Ok Challengers and their Ford Counterpart have been illed as the "doom" of stock eliminator.

But heres how I see it .....corp interest == Money, Money=Promotion, Promotion=Fans, Fans=Money and round and round....greed drives companys and orginizations for the most part simple, the question is how to benefit from their greed and participate

Newer cars = newer / younger fans
Newer technology = more vendor development, more interest and sales for the vendors of the newer technologies.
Newer technology draws new builders and tuners who are more familiar with the newer packges.
More Vendor development = New racing tech , bigger "edges"
The cycles could go on.

Someone mentioned how the 428 was last made in 70, do you think a 30 year old can relate or cares ? To me its like a flathead ford, cool and all but not my first choice for a rod, and I cant apply squat to my daily driver anymore.

So, the options to attract new racers are to "hope" that younger people find something in the classification guides that is interesting to them in an antique sort of way, or something "newer" that slipped in underrated and unexploited.

How many stockers that "disagree" with this own/drive cars they were at least 14 when the car was built ? Why then look to your birthdate, predate that by say 10 years and look at the cars, can you say WOW Id love to race any/all of them against what I am running.....no......dosent make sense....in some cases that PREWAR stuff or damm early postwar.b It dosent make sense to you, why should it make sense to the younger set ?

Combos SB , BB, FE and On have been wrung out to death and back, there , now MOST are out of production....what and how much NEW can the vendors possibly do for them ? How many "new' revisions of a Powerglide can be profitable for them ? I suppose a few.....but then what ? The next logical step in a timeline would be all the "failed" engine designs of the mid 80-90's all small displacment 4 and 6 cylinders....wo, exciting.

So....let see we get Ford and Mopar sinking money in programs, maybe GM will or wont follow...but then we get vendors promoting all kinds of things for them, pushing the NHRA for more prime time for them....on and on....you have big guns coming INTO stock for the first time in years.....Garlits outta retirment, Coughnlin running again, Maybe Johnson running...and there are quite a few more on the list not public who are / were monster racers...so the exposure goes up....

I dont like Force, its something I saw him do once, but thats neither here nor there, he is a publicity hound. If Stock got enough exposure hell I bet hed consider it....not saying he will....but why is Coughlin in Stock again ? (lot of things Ive heard)

Stock with MORE factory participation could explode again, and GO somewhere....."those Funny cars".....hmmmm....

When I say stock is becoming a "Vintage" class, look at the year breakdown and percentages of cars by year...the 80's and 90's except a few odds are a detriot wasteland....so go back to the 60's-70's where most younger guys cant relate, or move forward.

The Challenger the one everyone buys with a tune and a CAI, and NOTHING more is a mid 12 second car 5.7 or 6.1....in Stock legal trim who knows, the VVT has even more potential....out of the box at 25 mpg, Mustangs well Im not familiar so I cant comment, but Im gonna guess I can go plunk 30k down and walk outta the dealer with just as minimal work can be maybe even faster.

Maybe its my deranged mind, Im thrilled to be coming into Stock Eliminator at this point....I think its cool, I have absolutley no interest in running a 1988 Cutlass Ciera, or 92 Lumina, cars from when I was in High School...so what are my options ? Run something legally classified as an "Antique" or something new...?

Guys complain about turbos, they complain about fuel injection, they are going to really compalin about variable valve timing, direct injection is going to give everyone a stroke, and on....cars are moving forward, FAST. The things of even 5 years ago are going POOF in a static sense, cars are moving forward in leaps of advancement they havent since the late 30's then later in the mid-late 50's the rest was just more of the same (from a mechanical standpoint)

I think with , Factory, Vendor, Racer, and Fan "interest" IF it can be mustered Stock may not be the same as it has been forever but something good and new will come out of it, if it dosent it will fail and disolve, they dont want to let that happen IF there is an oppotunity to be had.

If the NHRA was "SMART" they would PLAN its evolution to repeat past success of the 60's , take something that worked once and DUPLICATE the events surrounding it..

Just some bored thoughts , I think this is COOL, and Im happy to be coming in to it at this point.

01-08-2010, 11:21 PM	#1
Chris "drooze" Wertman VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Barberton Ohio Posts: 1,114 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	How the factory "Package" cars may save Stock Ok, dont get riled because I dont know jack... But Ive read all the reasons of doom and gloom for an arena Im just starting to race in....to me, an outsider, and a business owner....heres how I see "the bright" side of things..... So.....I just want to share it, I have heard from others they feel the same, but havent read (much) of that here. I am going to offend some, because I "dont know" what I am talking about. BUT What I am is a) Younger than most here b)may have a fresh (naieve) perspective c) am bored outta my mind sitting here in this damm room. Ok Challengers and their Ford Counterpart have been illed as the "doom" of stock eliminator. But heres how I see it .....corp interest == Money, Money=Promotion, Promotion=Fans, Fans=Money and round and round....greed drives companys and orginizations for the most part simple, the question is how to benefit from their greed and participate Newer cars = newer / younger fans Newer technology = more vendor development, more interest and sales for the vendors of the newer technologies. Newer technology draws new builders and tuners who are more familiar with the newer packges. More Vendor development = New racing tech , bigger "edges" The cycles could go on. Someone mentioned how the 428 was last made in 70, do you think a 30 year old can relate or cares ? To me its like a flathead ford, cool and all but not my first choice for a rod, and I cant apply squat to my daily driver anymore. So, the options to attract new racers are to "hope" that younger people find something in the classification guides that is interesting to them in an antique sort of way, or something "newer" that slipped in underrated and unexploited. How many stockers that "disagree" with this own/drive cars they were at least 14 when the car was built ? Why then look to your birthdate, predate that by say 10 years and look at the cars, can you say WOW Id love to race any/all of them against what I am running.....no......dosent make sense....in some cases that PREWAR stuff or damm early postwar.b It dosent make sense to you, why should it make sense to the younger set ? Combos SB , BB, FE and On have been wrung out to death and back, there , now MOST are out of production....what and how much NEW can the vendors possibly do for them ? How many "new' revisions of a Powerglide can be profitable for them ? I suppose a few.....but then what ? The next logical step in a timeline would be all the "failed" engine designs of the mid 80-90's all small displacment 4 and 6 cylinders....wo, exciting. So....let see we get Ford and Mopar sinking money in programs, maybe GM will or wont follow...but then we get vendors promoting all kinds of things for them, pushing the NHRA for more prime time for them....on and on....you have big guns coming INTO stock for the first time in years.....Garlits outta retirment, Coughnlin running again, Maybe Johnson running...and there are quite a few more on the list not public who are / were monster racers...so the exposure goes up.... I dont like Force, its something I saw him do once, but thats neither here nor there, he is a publicity hound. If Stock got enough exposure hell I bet hed consider it....not saying he will....but why is Coughlin in Stock again ? (lot of things Ive heard) Stock with MORE factory participation could explode again, and GO somewhere....."those Funny cars".....hmmmm.... When I say stock is becoming a "Vintage" class, look at the year breakdown and percentages of cars by year...the 80's and 90's except a few odds are a detriot wasteland....so go back to the 60's-70's where most younger guys cant relate, or move forward. The Challenger the one everyone buys with a tune and a CAI, and NOTHING more is a mid 12 second car 5.7 or 6.1....in Stock legal trim who knows, the VVT has even more potential....out of the box at 25 mpg, Mustangs well Im not familiar so I cant comment, but Im gonna guess I can go plunk 30k down and walk outta the dealer with just as minimal work can be maybe even faster. Maybe its my deranged mind, Im thrilled to be coming into Stock Eliminator at this point....I think its cool, I have absolutley no interest in running a 1988 Cutlass Ciera, or 92 Lumina, cars from when I was in High School...so what are my options ? Run something legally classified as an "Antique" or something new...? Guys complain about turbos, they complain about fuel injection, they are going to really compalin about variable valve timing, direct injection is going to give everyone a stroke, and on....cars are moving forward, FAST. The things of even 5 years ago are going POOF in a static sense, cars are moving forward in leaps of advancement they havent since the late 30's then later in the mid-late 50's the rest was just more of the same (from a mechanical standpoint) I think with , Factory, Vendor, Racer, and Fan "interest" IF it can be mustered Stock may not be the same as it has been forever but something good and new will come out of it, if it dosent it will fail and disolve, they dont want to let that happen IF there is an oppotunity to be had. If the NHRA was "SMART" they would PLAN its evolution to repeat past success of the 60's , take something that worked once and DUPLICATE the events surrounding it.. Just some bored thoughts , I think this is COOL, and Im happy to be coming in to it at this point.