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Old 10-05-2009, 09:47 AM   #21
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Sean,

A quick recap of information that has been posted on this site many times.

Ford staff told me and anyone who would listen at 2008 SEMA that these cars were putting out close to 800 horsepower, but they would not publish the numbers because they did not want nhra to know the real horsepower numbers.

A friend bought one of these cars and was told that the motors put out about 750-780 horsepower but they would not offer a dyno sheet because they did not want nhra to find out.

A fellow by the name of Steve who works for Ford Racing Parts told me the motors could make up to 780 horsepower but he would not give me a dyno sheet because Ford did not want nhra to find out about the real horsepower the motor is producing. Apparently Ford told nhra the motors produce approximately 450 horsepower.

nhra learned the truth about this scheme earlier in the year but refused to correct the situation. Now the numbers are out and the car is in fact making the power that all of the Ford staff said it would make.

This is certainly enough information for a reasonable person to conclude that Ford is cheating the system.
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Old 10-05-2009, 10:21 AM   #22
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Popcorn anyone?
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Old 10-05-2009, 12:56 PM   #23
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Popcorn, Coke, (large) and peanut M & M's. This is gonna take awhile.
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Old 10-05-2009, 01:37 PM   #24
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Popcorn, Coke, (large) and peanut M & M's. This is gonna take awhile.

Jeff,

Just ordered two xtra large pizzas and settled into the easy chair.

Sent a letter to Fiat asking them to produce paper work for a 8-71 blower on a Max wedge, the HP will be 427, 2 over regular Max!

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Old 10-05-2009, 02:20 PM   #25
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Just ordered two xtra large pizzas and settled into the easy chair.

Sent a letter to Fiat asking them to produce paper work for a 8-71 blower on a Max wedge, the HP will be 427, 2 over regular Max!

JimR
Jim They have to grant my request first. I want a Challenger with a 2.4 turbo automatic(100 hp would be nice) and make it RWD.
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Old 10-05-2009, 02:25 PM   #26
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In all fairness. I doubt that it would have been any harder for Ford to make a piston that met the specs. The cars were going to be legal like it or not. Would the "illegal" pistons make the car go that much quicker?
So what's the point?
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Old 10-05-2009, 03:05 PM   #27
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Bruce -- Good to see that you're back in action .It's taken you some time but I see that your soapbox is back together and your voice is being heard .That said its a waste of time -- your estimates may not be too far off ( and I hate admitting it ) but stirring the pot here is useless .My advise ( yeah , I know, you didn't ask for it ) -- time is going to have to take car of this -- and it will . Have some faith in the system ........the horse ( no pun intended ) is already out of the barn .
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Old 10-05-2009, 06:20 PM   #28
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I,m with Bruce and Bob on this, but I agree with Jack that time will tell and they will dig their own hole. 139 on MPH and 111 in the eighth you will eventually get in trouble. They are not done at .40,s.My freind just ordered one for Comp Eliminator.
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Old 10-05-2009, 09:27 PM   #29
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I posted a bunch of pictures from Kearney on the Photo gallery page
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Old 10-06-2009, 08:06 AM   #30
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Ford did not do anything different than what Government Motors racing group has done for the last 40 years or so. Remember the 255 hp 350 back in 1969 or the Oldsmobiles of the 1980's or the LS1's of the 1990's. All were underfactored in their day. The car Companies want their race cars to go fast, to sell new cars, so they used the system to their advantage, but saying they cheated the system is your words, not Fords. How come no one complained about Irvin Johns Drag Pac Challenger being number one qualifyer at the Columbus Sportsnationals last week? Bruce is still sore because the Cobra Jets rained on his A/sa Corvette parade, but the Cobra Jets aren't the only game in town, so get used to it. Maybe the Performance Group at GM will step up to the plate with a competitive new Camaro, if they can get it by Congress.
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