HOME FORUM RULES CONTACT
     
   
   

Go Back   CLASS RACER FORUM > Class Racer Forums > Class Racer Builds
Register Photo Gallery FAQ Community Calendar


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 05-23-2024, 07:24 PM   #21
Mark Yacavone
Veteran Member
 
Mark Yacavone's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Miles From Nowhere
Posts: 7,669
Likes: 2,778
Liked 4,863 Times in 1,850 Posts
Default Re: 335 HP 396 290 Head Casting Build & Dyno Test

Quote:
Originally Posted by goinbroke2 View Post
For us crayon eaters in the class, can you explain the pictures in better detail please?
I understand you want all the valve heads the same height in the chamber so with sunk seats, you're replacing the seats and getting all the heads to sit at the same height...got it. But in the picture where you say you have .060, you're measuring from the deck height and what? I can't see but I'm assuming you're going to the top of the seat you installed?

Once all valves are sitting in the same place in the chamber, the cc's should be closer to start with...am I on the same page or in left field?
60 is the degree cut in the seat, that didn't exist before. This is a good part of the low and mid flow pick up.
__________________
Real life never quite adds up.... Jay Farrar
Mark Yacavone is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 05-23-2024, 07:28 PM   #22
HP HUNTER
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Colorado Springs Colorado/Thousand Oaks Ca
Posts: 638
Likes: 76
Liked 322 Times in 116 Posts
Default Re: 335 HP 396 290 Head Casting Build & Dyno Test

OK- the valve job is 30/45/60/75/90 on a BBC production head the valve bowl is too big to get much if any 60 degree angle with a 2.065 valve. In the picture you will see the lap line, below the lap line is the 60 degree angle which is around .180 wide, that 60 degree angle is partially responsible for the low lift flow gains. If you look at the picture before modifications you will see there is very little 60 degree angle below the 45 degree seat. Hope that explains it.
HP HUNTER is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-23-2024, 08:57 PM   #23
MAURICE BLENDHEIM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Langley (no igloos), British Columbia, Canada
Posts: 556
Likes: 290
Liked 237 Times in 81 Posts
Default Re: 335 HP 396 290 Head Casting Build & Dyno Test

Quote:
Originally Posted by HP HUNTER View Post
A while back I was looking for a transmission and came across a complete 335 HP 396 Stocker drive train for sale and and bought it. From what I've been told this engine/trans ran 3-5 tenths under the index in D/SA trim, dyno data also came with the engine which I will share as well. My plan is to go through the 290 head castings and see if I can make some improvements then dyno test the engine and finally run it in the car. I tore the heads down and preliminary cleaned them for a flow test, which I will post as the car ran 3-5 under the index. I will be testing the other head as well before any work starts to make sure it's similar in flow to the first head tested.
Mark… I am really looking forward to the results. As per our previous discussion it should be interesting. Maurice
MAURICE BLENDHEIM is online now   Reply With Quote
Liked
Old 05-23-2024, 09:36 PM   #24
HP HUNTER
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Colorado Springs Colorado/Thousand Oaks Ca
Posts: 638
Likes: 76
Liked 322 Times in 116 Posts
Default Re: 335 HP 396 290 Head Casting Build & Dyno Test

Quote:
Originally Posted by MAURICE BLENDHEIM View Post
Mark… I am really looking forward to the results. As per our previous discussion it should be interesting. Maurice
Great, happy to have you involved. More pictures
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	1.jpeg
Views:	1146
Size:	103.4 KB
ID:	69982  
HP HUNTER is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-23-2024, 09:42 PM   #25
HP HUNTER
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Colorado Springs Colorado/Thousand Oaks Ca
Posts: 638
Likes: 76
Liked 322 Times in 116 Posts
Default Re: 335 HP 396 290 Head Casting Build & Dyno Test

Exhaust flow is now:

.200 126 + 19
.300 160 + 29
.400 175 + 23
.480 178 + 13

Exhaust valve is tullipped.

Last edited by HP HUNTER; 05-23-2024 at 09:45 PM.
HP HUNTER is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-26-2024, 08:51 PM   #26
HP HUNTER
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Colorado Springs Colorado/Thousand Oaks Ca
Posts: 638
Likes: 76
Liked 322 Times in 116 Posts
Default Re: 335 HP 396 290 Head Casting Build & Dyno Test

Ready to be cleaned and assembled.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Sat1.jpeg
Views:	1017
Size:	86.5 KB
ID:	70025   Click image for larger version

Name:	sat3.jpeg
Views:	1058
Size:	81.8 KB
ID:	70026   Click image for larger version

Name:	v.jpeg
Views:	1050
Size:	92.8 KB
ID:	70027  

Click image for larger version

Name:	v1.jpeg
Views:	1033
Size:	108.3 KB
ID:	70028  

Last edited by HP HUNTER; 05-26-2024 at 08:55 PM.
HP HUNTER is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-29-2024, 10:46 PM   #27
goinbroke2
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: NS CANADA
Posts: 773
Likes: 911
Liked 219 Times in 87 Posts
Default Re: 335 HP 396 290 Head Casting Build & Dyno Test

If you don't mind sharing, how wide is the seat and how wide are the other angles?

Thanks
__________________
Jim Miller
103 U/SA
goinbroke2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-30-2024, 04:18 PM   #28
HP HUNTER
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Colorado Springs Colorado/Thousand Oaks Ca
Posts: 638
Likes: 76
Liked 322 Times in 116 Posts
Default Re: 335 HP 396 290 Head Casting Build & Dyno Test

Quote:
Originally Posted by goinbroke2 View Post
If you don't mind sharing, how wide is the seat and how wide are the other angles?

Thanks
The intake seat is .045 wide, The exhaust is .065 wide, I will have to measure the other angles widths and get back to you.
HP HUNTER is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-30-2024, 04:59 PM   #29
goinbroke2
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: NS CANADA
Posts: 773
Likes: 911
Liked 219 Times in 87 Posts
Default Re: 335 HP 396 290 Head Casting Build & Dyno Test

Hmm, narrower than i thought. I kept exh seat a bit wider to help heat dissipation (.070)
And then I did the same for intake (.070) and the others were kept to whatever it took to put the seat (45) where i wanted it so the 30 and 60 vary from .030 to .07.

Am i on the right track or did i mess up?
__________________
Jim Miller
103 U/SA
goinbroke2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2024, 11:14 AM   #30
HP HUNTER
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Colorado Springs Colorado/Thousand Oaks Ca
Posts: 638
Likes: 76
Liked 322 Times in 116 Posts
Default Re: 335 HP 396 290 Head Casting Build & Dyno Test

Quote:
Originally Posted by goinbroke2 View Post
Hmm, narrower than i thought. I kept exh seat a bit wider to help heat dissipation (.070)
And then I did the same for intake (.070) and the others were kept to whatever it took to put the seat (45) where i wanted it so the 30 and 60 vary from .030 to .07.

Am i on the right track or did i mess up?
Can you post a picture? I don't think I'am qualified to answer that question, .005 extra width on a seat I wouldn't think would make or break you.

Last edited by HP HUNTER; 06-06-2024 at 11:16 AM.
HP HUNTER is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:22 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright © Class Racer.com. All Rights Reserved. Designated trademarks and brands are the property of their respective owners.