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MR DERBY CITY · 01-20-2020, 06:49 PM

Everything I wanted to know about Pontiacs,....and more.....

ss3011 · 01-20-2020, 06:58 PM

I run my 91 Formula as a GT/FA with an oval port 454 Chevy engine . The 1973 Formula I have has always run a 455 SD , since I bought the car in 1982 . That car was orginally purchased by Rock Running . Basically a race car its entire life .

Mike Jones · 01-20-2020, 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MR DERBY CITY

Everything I wanted to know about Pontiacs,....and more.....

...don`t encourage him!

oldskool · 01-20-2020, 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ss3011

I run my 91 Formula as a GT/FA with an oval port 454 Chevy engine . The 1973 Formula I have has always run a 455 SD , since I bought the car in 1982 . That car was orginally purchased by Rock Running . Basically a race car its entire life .

Thanks for that info !

You mentioned Rock Running. I'm always interested in knowing why so many guys who have raced Pontiacs for a good while have switched to other brands.

Some say it's just because Chevy parts are so much cheaper, so many shops know how to build 'em, & that good factory Pontiac parts are now hard to find & expensive.

But, many of the Pontiacs I've mentioned here have proven that some Pontiac combinations are quite competitive. And, a "Pontiac" engine can now be built without using any original GM parts. The block can be aftermarket, at least for 400 & larger engines. The 428's can use alum E-heads. And the Q-jet can also be Edelbrock. And, I assume that a Pontiac engine can be run in most any GM body. The Cobalts I've mentioned are examples. So, a guy with a good Chevy bodied car, could run a Pontiac engine, in GT. I love the GT rules.

As all here know, unless you're building a "dime rocket", any competitive SS car will cost big bucks. And many here probably go racing in high dollar rigs. So, even if a Pontiac would cost a few thousand more to build, that would not be a problem for most who can afford do this type of racing. Just a casual observation.

oldskool · 01-20-2020, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Jones

...don`t encourage him!

I don't need any encouragement. I LOVE it !

MR DERBY CITY · 01-20-2020, 10:53 PM

So,....one more year and we are done ? Asking for a friend.....

oldskool · 01-21-2020, 01:03 AM

2019

OK, this season will catch us up on recent Pontiac SS race results, which are available on DRC.

At the Winter Nats, Leo was #22 @ -.825. Larry Maxwell got his '68 Gt Bird down into 10's for a #45 position. J.B. Clegg got the #48 position, in John's original '73 SD455 Bird. Art Peterson was #57.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop

I think the rebuild of the Clegg '73 SD455 Bird made it's debut at the 2018 US Nats, with a 9.746, good enuff to make the field.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop

At the AZ Nats, Leo was #19 @ -.634.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop

@ LOS 7-1, Leo was #18 @ -.689. Larry was #28.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop

@ the Baby Gators, Scott was #25 @ -.891.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop

At the Gators, Scott was #36 @ -.707.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop

At the Vegas Spring race, Brad was #25 @ -.731. Leo was #31 @ -.642. Larry was #52.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop

@ LOS 7-2, Brad was #37 @ -.699. Leo was #43 @ -.635. Keri was #61. Larry was #75. Lindy was #78.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop

@ LOS 6-1, Brad was #8 @ -.919.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop

@ LOS 3-1, Todd Frantz was #5 @ -.915.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop

@ LOS 3-2, Todd was #5 @ -.939. Bill K. was #27 @ -.688.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop

@ LOS 7-3, Leo was #22 @ -.619. Keri was #36. Larry was #40.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop

@ LOS 1-1, Bill K. was #31 @ -.754. John Agneta was #42 @ -.689.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop

At the Route 66 Nats, Greg was #20 @ -.836.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop

At the Heartland Nats, Robert was #6 @ -.889. Scott was #19 @ -.759.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop

@ LOS 1-2, Bill K. was #18 @ -.648.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop

@ LOS 5-1, Robert was #1 @ -.993. Scott was #4 @ -.897. Carroll was #13.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop

It was an All-Pontiac final, with Carroll over Scott ! Have I mentioned that I LOVE All-Pontiac finals ?

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop

@ LOS 1-3, Bill K. was #23 @ -.688.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop

That gets us thru June. As usual, I didn't list all the nat & div events, even some where Pontiacs were entered. And, as of this minute, I don't know how to look up results of any other smaller and/or special events.

So, again I ask that any of you guys who know of events I haven't reported on, in which any Pontiac V8 powered car may have done well, please post that info. Thanks !

oldskool · 01-21-2020, 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MR DERBY CITY

So,....one more year and we are done ? Asking for a friend.....

Yeah, I'll be about done, UNTIL the 2020 Winter Nats !

I realize that LOTS, probably MOST, here don't give a flip about Pontiac powered race cars, or anything to do with Pontiacs or their history.

Their feelings about the subject, may be similar to mine, if somebody started a thread about the history of Chevy powered racing. There have been so many hundreds of thousands, most likely millions of Chevy powered drag cars, that I am really not interested in reading any more about 'em than I already know.

Just because I don't care to read more about Chevy power, doesn't mean I have anything against the people who race Chevy powered cars. Same goes for Ford & Mopar racers. There have been lots of famous Mopar racers. I remember one particular race we attended, where the announcer seemed to be extremely excited to have Ronnie Sox there, driving a factory Mopar, IIRC.

Over & over that day we kept hearing "Ronnie Sox" this, & "Ronnie Sox" that. Don't know how many times he said that name over the loud speaker. But. it was enuff that, thru the years, every time that name has ever come up, we both say"Ronnie Sox, Ronnie Sox, Ronnie Sox". From what I remember, Ronnie Sox was a great & famous Mopar Driver.

"...The first thing that caught my eyes was a staple of every media guide, a list of the sport's winningest drivers. Here was the score heading into 1972:

Ronnie Sox: 15
Don Garlits: 7
Gordon Collett : 7
Dave Boertman: 6
Gene Snow: 6
Don Prudhomme: 5
George Montgomery: 5
Ray Motes: 4
Don Nicholson: 4
Bill Jenkins: 4..."

I also remember "Miss Mighty Mopar", Judy Lilly. She won LOTS of races, in factory Mopars. But, since I'm a Pontiac guy, one of the best memories I have of Judy, is the fact that Jack Mullins beat her, with his Pontiac wagon, in the finals of the US Nats, in 1975 !

I suppose it's all just a matter of brand preference, for some. Then others just like drag racing & don't really care what brand the body or engine is. Different strokes.

oldskool · 01-21-2020, 04:07 AM

2019 contd.

@ LOS 3-3,Todd Frantz was #7 @ -.881. Don K. was #13 @ -.838. Greg Meyer was #33 @ -.768. Mike Morgan was #49 @ -.685.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop

@ LOS 3-4, Todd Frantz was #3 @ -.944. Greg was #21 @ -.812.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop

@ LOS 7-4, Brad was #20 @ -.807.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop

@ LOS 7-5, Scott was #21 @ -.742. Son Brad drove his '72 Formy Stocker, in SS, & just barely ran under the SS/IA index, for the #49 position.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop

At the Mile-high Nats, Carroll was #9 @ -.518. Billy Ingels was #10, also @ -.518.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop

At the Sonoma Nats, Brad was #23 @ -.780.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop

@ LOS 5-2, Robert was #16 @ -.768. Carroll was #34 @ -.647. Billy Ingels was #48 @ -.559.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop

At the Northwest Nats, Brad was #8 @ -.748.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop

@ LOS 1-4, John Agneta was #30 @ -.763. Bill K. Was #33 @ -.744.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop

Bill got a 3rd place finish.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop

@ LOS 1-5, Bill was #18 @ -.800. John was #17 @ -.795.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop

@ LOS 3-5, Don K. was #4 @ - 1.007. Todd was #17 @ -.876. Casey McCarty was #24 @ -.849. Jack Good was #33 @ -.808.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop

@ LOS 1-6, Bill was #16 @ -.744.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop

At the Mopar Nats, Bill K. was #14 @ -.831.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop

@ LOS 5-5, Robert was #8 @ -.938. Greg was #18 @ -.868. Carroll was #25 @ -.776. Bill Rink was #27 @ -.753. Scott was #32 @ -.713. Billy Ingels was #39 @ -.668.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop

@ LOS 5-6, most of the same guys were there.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop

At the Jegs Sports Nats, Bill Rink was #6 @ -.971. Todd was #15 @ -.894. Casey McCarty was #27 @ -.851. Jack Good was #57 @ -.646.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop

@ LOS 1-7, Bill K. was #20 @ -.871.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop

@ LOS 3-6, Bill Rink was #1 @ - 1.147. Todd was #9 @ -.953. Stacy McCarty was #34 @ -.696.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop

@ LOS 7-6, Leo was #11 @ -.695. Larry was #33.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop

@ LOS 2-6, Wilbert Thornton finished in the top half of the field, with a #31 @ -.795.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop

At the Fall Vegas nat, Bill Rink was #4 @ - 1.142. Robert was #15 @ - 1.015. Brad was #29 @ -.923. Leo was #33 @ -.899.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop

@ LOS 7-7, Bill Rink was #1 @ - 1.145. Robert was #6 @ -.978. Todd was #11 @ -.927. Scott was #29 @ -.861. Leo was #38 @ -.829. Larry was #85. Keri was #93.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop

At the Pomona Finals, Robert was #7 @ -.933. Leo was #18 @ -.840. Art was #52.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop

Well, that completes my scan of the DRC SS files, since 1998. Not even close to the total number of big races Pontiacs entered during those years. But, it does cover some of the quicker Pontiac SS cars, during the period.

And, some of 'em are still racing, as we'll soon see !

oldskool · 01-21-2020, 04:14 AM

Yes, I realize that MOST here are not interested, & will never look at hardly any of these results.

BUT, for those few who are, & for those who someday may be, the links are here. So, I suppose that as long as this site remains & keeps this thread, and as long as the links to the DRC files still work, anyone interested will be able to get a small glimpse into Pontiac V8 powered NHRA Super Stock drag racing, since 1998.

01-20-2020, 06:49 PM	#231
MR DERBY CITY VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Derby City, USA Posts: 3,361 Likes: 906 Liked 6,753 Times in 1,316 Posts	Re: Best Pontiac Powered Super Stockers Everything I wanted to know about Pontiacs,....and more.....

01-20-2020, 06:58 PM	#232
ss3011 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Southeast Michigan Posts: 892 Likes: 65 Liked 229 Times in 107 Posts	Re: Best Pontiac Powered Super Stockers I run my 91 Formula as a GT/FA with an oval port 454 Chevy engine . The 1973 Formula I have has always run a 455 SD , since I bought the car in 1982 . That car was orginally purchased by Rock Running . Basically a race car its entire life .

01-20-2020, 10:53 PM	#236
MR DERBY CITY VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Derby City, USA Posts: 3,361 Likes: 906 Liked 6,753 Times in 1,316 Posts	Re: Best Pontiac Powered Super Stockers So,....one more year and we are done ? Asking for a friend.....

01-21-2020, 01:03 AM	#237
oldskool VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: The Land of Bayous, Boudin & Crawfish Posts: 1,668 Likes: 223 Liked 750 Times in 361 Posts	Re: Best Pontiac Powered Super Stockers 2019 OK, this season will catch us up on recent Pontiac SS race results, which are available on DRC. At the Winter Nats, Leo was #22 @ -.825. Larry Maxwell got his '68 Gt Bird down into 10's for a #45 position. J.B. Clegg got the #48 position, in John's original '73 SD455 Bird. Art Peterson was #57. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop I think the rebuild of the Clegg '73 SD455 Bird made it's debut at the 2018 US Nats, with a 9.746, good enuff to make the field. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop At the AZ Nats, Leo was #19 @ -.634. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop @ LOS 7-1, Leo was #18 @ -.689. Larry was #28. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop @ the Baby Gators, Scott was #25 @ -.891. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop At the Gators, Scott was #36 @ -.707. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop At the Vegas Spring race, Brad was #25 @ -.731. Leo was #31 @ -.642. Larry was #52. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop @ LOS 7-2, Brad was #37 @ -.699. Leo was #43 @ -.635. Keri was #61. Larry was #75. Lindy was #78. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop @ LOS 6-1, Brad was #8 @ -.919. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop @ LOS 3-1, Todd Frantz was #5 @ -.915. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop @ LOS 3-2, Todd was #5 @ -.939. Bill K. was #27 @ -.688. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop @ LOS 7-3, Leo was #22 @ -.619. Keri was #36. Larry was #40. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop @ LOS 1-1, Bill K. was #31 @ -.754. John Agneta was #42 @ -.689. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop At the Route 66 Nats, Greg was #20 @ -.836. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop At the Heartland Nats, Robert was #6 @ -.889. Scott was #19 @ -.759. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop @ LOS 1-2, Bill K. was #18 @ -.648. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop @ LOS 5-1, Robert was #1 @ -.993. Scott was #4 @ -.897. Carroll was #13. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop It was an All-Pontiac final, with Carroll over Scott ! Have I mentioned that I LOVE All-Pontiac finals ? https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop @ LOS 1-3, Bill K. was #23 @ -.688. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop That gets us thru June. As usual, I didn't list all the nat & div events, even some where Pontiacs were entered. And, as of this minute, I don't know how to look up results of any other smaller and/or special events. So, again I ask that any of you guys who know of events I haven't reported on, in which any Pontiac V8 powered car may have done well, please post that info. Thanks !

01-21-2020, 04:07 AM	#239
oldskool VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: The Land of Bayous, Boudin & Crawfish Posts: 1,668 Likes: 223 Liked 750 Times in 361 Posts	Re: Best Pontiac Powered Super Stockers 2019 contd. @ LOS 3-3,Todd Frantz was #7 @ -.881. Don K. was #13 @ -.838. Greg Meyer was #33 @ -.768. Mike Morgan was #49 @ -.685. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop @ LOS 3-4, Todd Frantz was #3 @ -.944. Greg was #21 @ -.812. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop @ LOS 7-4, Brad was #20 @ -.807. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop @ LOS 7-5, Scott was #21 @ -.742. Son Brad drove his '72 Formy Stocker, in SS, & just barely ran under the SS/IA index, for the #49 position. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop At the Mile-high Nats, Carroll was #9 @ -.518. Billy Ingels was #10, also @ -.518. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop At the Sonoma Nats, Brad was #23 @ -.780. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop @ LOS 5-2, Robert was #16 @ -.768. Carroll was #34 @ -.647. Billy Ingels was #48 @ -.559. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop At the Northwest Nats, Brad was #8 @ -.748. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop @ LOS 1-4, John Agneta was #30 @ -.763. Bill K. Was #33 @ -.744. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop Bill got a 3rd place finish. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop @ LOS 1-5, Bill was #18 @ -.800. John was #17 @ -.795. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop @ LOS 3-5, Don K. was #4 @ - 1.007. Todd was #17 @ -.876. Casey McCarty was #24 @ -.849. Jack Good was #33 @ -.808. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop @ LOS 1-6, Bill was #16 @ -.744. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop At the Mopar Nats, Bill K. was #14 @ -.831. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop @ LOS 5-5, Robert was #8 @ -.938. Greg was #18 @ -.868. Carroll was #25 @ -.776. Bill Rink was #27 @ -.753. Scott was #32 @ -.713. Billy Ingels was #39 @ -.668. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop @ LOS 5-6, most of the same guys were there. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop At the Jegs Sports Nats, Bill Rink was #6 @ -.971. Todd was #15 @ -.894. Casey McCarty was #27 @ -.851. Jack Good was #57 @ -.646. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop @ LOS 1-7, Bill K. was #20 @ -.871. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop @ LOS 3-6, Bill Rink was #1 @ - 1.147. Todd was #9 @ -.953. Stacy McCarty was #34 @ -.696. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop @ LOS 7-6, Leo was #11 @ -.695. Larry was #33. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop @ LOS 2-6, Wilbert Thornton finished in the top half of the field, with a #31 @ -.795. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop At the Fall Vegas nat, Bill Rink was #4 @ - 1.142. Robert was #15 @ - 1.015. Brad was #29 @ -.923. Leo was #33 @ -.899. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop @ LOS 7-7, Bill Rink was #1 @ - 1.145. Robert was #6 @ -.978. Todd was #11 @ -.927. Scott was #29 @ -.861. Leo was #38 @ -.829. Larry was #85. Keri was #93. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop At the Pomona Finals, Robert was #7 @ -.933. Leo was #18 @ -.840. Art was #52. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop Well, that completes my scan of the DRC SS files, since 1998. Not even close to the total number of big races Pontiacs entered during those years. But, it does cover some of the quicker Pontiac SS cars, during the period. And, some of 'em are still racing, as we'll soon see !

01-21-2020, 04:14 AM	#240
oldskool VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: The Land of Bayous, Boudin & Crawfish Posts: 1,668 Likes: 223 Liked 750 Times in 361 Posts	Re: Best Pontiac Powered Super Stockers Yes, I realize that MOST here are not interested, & will never look at hardly any of these results. BUT, for those few who are, & for those who someday may be, the links are here. So, I suppose that as long as this site remains & keeps this thread, and as long as the links to the DRC files still work, anyone interested will be able to get a small glimpse into Pontiac V8 powered NHRA Super Stock drag racing, since 1998.