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He already has about as many pages as a U. S. Nationals thread, and I think he just scratched the surface. A for effort
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I've had two Sunbirds. "Buff Daddy" Carr won class at Indy in both of them. One had a N/A 1.8 Pontiac OHC 4 cylinder and the other had a turbocharger on the same motor. That turbo car could be evil to drive. It went 13.70s at over 100 MPH a million years ago in BF/SA.
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Continuing now with '71-'72 Birds, especially looking at the '71-'72 Formy that Scott Burton drove, then later Brad Burton drove, I assume.
As of early 2005, Scott was still driving it. On the Phoenix Q-list he was #12 @ 1.010 under. John Schloe was #4 @ 1.110 under, in his '69 Bird. Larry Maxwell & Ryan Schloe were also on the list with their '71 Birds. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2005#indextop Scott went 4 rounds, but lost in the quarterfinals to the event winner. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2005#indextop The early Vegas race was loaded with Pontiacs. Bob Mulry was on top @ 1.468 under. Scott was #3 @ 1.312 under. John Schloe was #18 @ 1.171 under. Bryan Philips was #23 @ 1.134 under. There were at least 4 more Pontiacs on the list. When an '80 or '81 Bird is listed, I don't know whether it has a 301 Pontiac engine, or a 305 Chevy engine. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2005#indextop OK, at the Mile High Nats, Brad Burton is listed as the driver. He was #12 @ 1.183 under. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2005#indextop Brad also won his E/SA class. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2005#indextop At the fall Vegas race, Scott was driving. Bob Mulry was #1 @ 1.507 under. Bryan Phillips was #3 @ 1.363 under. Leo Glasbrenner was #7 @ 1.288 under. John Schloe was #12 @ 1.222 under. Scott was #14 @ 1.196 under. Don Elgin, Larry Maxwell & Ryan Schloe were also on the list. They may have had a small Pontiac party at that race. Anyhow, there were 3 '71-'72 Birds there. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2005#indextop Had 3 class winners: Byran Phillips, Bob Mulry, & Don Elgin. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2005#indextop Brad was driving in '06 at Phoenix. He was #21 @ 1.042 under. There were some interesting Pontiacs at this race. First is a Chris Denton '80 P/SA Bird. Don't know what engine it had, since it could have had several, including a 301T. Who knows what this car had ? Then Tony DeFrank is listed, in a '67 Bird. Did I dream this, or did somebody say that is the car Randi Lyn has now ? Tibor Kadar is listed, in a '77 Bird. Who has info on the car, & the drivers' connection with Pontiacs ? Leo Glasbrenner is also on the list, with his '68 Bird. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2006#indextop The Burton Bird is not on the list, for the Spring Vegas race. But I HAD to post it. It's loaded with Pontiac power. Bob Mulry was #1 @ 1.566 under. John Schloe was #4 @ 1.309 under. Bryan Phillips was #7 @ 1.284 under. Leo was #17 @ 1.194 under. Chris Denton was #27 @ 1.104 under. Tibor Kadar was #43 @ 1.031 under. Larry Maxwell was #54 @ .996 under. Tony DeFrank was #57 @ .950 under. Ryan Schloe was #65 @ .898 under. Bill Edgeworth was #68 @ .889 under. Tony Janes is also on the list in a '72 Lemans. Don't know if that's a misprint, & his name is really James, or not . ? https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2006#indextop How 'bout this list of class winners ? https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2006#indextop Now guys, even if you don't like Pontiacs, you'll have to admit that this was an awesome display of Pontiac Stocker performance ! OK, both Brad & Scott were entered at Denver, Scott with a '71 Bird, & Brad with a '72 Bird. Scott was #3 @ 1.407 under. Brad was #10 @ 1.278 under. Tibor Kadar & Larry Maxwell were also entered. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2006#indextop Scott & Tibor won their class. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2006#indextop Scott got RU at this race. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2006#indextop Well, the Burtons didn't make the Fontana race. But most of the other Pontiac guys did. And they put on quite a show. Bob Mulry was, once again #1 on the list @ 1.342 under. Wonder how many #1's he got with that car ? Maybe he'll chime in with that info(I hope). https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2006#indextop Had 3 class winners. In the E/SA final, Bryan Phillips beat Leo Glasbrenner by aprx 3". Don't know exactly how they figure that. Computer I reckin. Or maybe math, if you were good enuff. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2006#indextop And Kadar won the race ! https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2006#indextop Scott made the fall Vegas race. He was #25 @ 1.125 under. Some Pontiacs finished ahead of him. Bryan Phillips was highest. Bill Edgeworth was there. His Bird was a record holder. Don't know what year or years. Anybody know ? https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2006#indextop Leo got to the semifinal, but lost a double breakout race. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2006#indextop Scott made the final race at Pomona. He was #18 @ 1.084 under. Again, there were several Pontiacs higher on the Q-list. I noticed that here & at Vegas, Larry Maxwell had dropped down to H/SA. I assume he switched from the 455HO heads, to D-port heads. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2006#indextop Leo lost a double breakout final. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2006#indextop Well, that wraps up the DRC file info from '06. I know this & similar posts are long, & many are not interested. But, the results of these races show the performance of Pontiac powered Stockers, during that time period. I couldn't be at any of those races. But I'm glad to be able to get a glimpse of what happened, from the records. So, anyone not interested can just not read 'em. But, for those who are, maybe they can get some enjoyment from them, as I have. And, putting a lot on one post saves a small amount of space, as compared to using many posts, with just a small amount of info on each. Hey, I hope somebody here is enjoying this look back into Pontiac Stocker history even half as much as I am. 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To my knowledge, any time that you see an 80/81 Firebird listed it's going to be a 301T.
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