'67 Camaro E/SA redo - Page 20

HandOverFist · 04-22-2014, 04:08 PM

The wheels are turning, hehe.

Geerhead55 · 04-23-2014, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by HandOverFist

The wheels are turning, hehe.

I'll bet they are! I don't know how much lighter a '67 is than a '69, but I always liked the 396 '67 Camaros. Good idea finding all your weak links now,,, good luck the rest of the way.
Danny Durham

HandOverFist · 04-24-2014, 11:36 AM

Just got confirmation this morning that the 200 case was cracked as well. Even with all the components being replaced on this car I want to get as many eyes on it as I can before it goes back out. The builder of the new drive shaft reports that the old shaft was just slightly out of balance...I'm thinking it had little to do with our problems.

The following parts have been checked and/or will be replaced -

New drive shaft w/1350 yokes

New tubular transmission crossmember (will stick with the poly mount)

New solid motor mounts (both being equal height)

Sub-frame bushings checked for tightness

My best guess is the mis-matched motor mounts were the primary cause of most of the woes we have experienced...have yet to come up with a logical reason for someone doing that. I believe the original slapper bar traction device masked/cushioned the problem. With the introduction of the Caltrac's and the subsequent higher shock loads things began to fail. With everything in it's proper place and working together I predict some low 1.40's in 60' times. Btw, the torque convertor appears to be unscathed.

FED 387 · 04-24-2014, 11:52 AM

do u have the side stiffening bars on your trans case??? FED 387

Robert Simpson · 04-24-2014, 12:01 PM

Rich, where did you get the tubular trans cross member from? Is it lighter? Or easier to install? Thanks

HandOverFist · 04-24-2014, 12:13 PM

Yes FED, but there is only so much they can do with my abuse lol!

New crossmember from http://srdparts.com/index.php?page=s...emart&Itemid=1
Appears to be a quality piece and it will help with the shift cable routing.

Dion Hildebrandt · 04-24-2014, 02:47 PM

When you get all of these parts in place with the proper mounts and such ,spend some time measuring up your driveline angles. I suspect you may find that they may not be at ideal angles.
I say this only because of the violence you described with the diff situation, it reminds me of the troubles I had with my car. The root cause of my issues were the engine/trans and diff were doing this ( \-/ ) as an over simplified example. I kept knocking out driveline parts until we corrected that issue.

Nothing more frustrating than chasing a problem that hides in the shadows. good luck with the car

HandOverFist · 04-25-2014, 01:00 AM

The angles were perfect until the perch's collapsed...

HandOverFist · 04-26-2014, 09:11 PM

Thomas Arnett comes thru once again. Drove to KY this morning with a buddy who is building a '68 Camaro E/SA and we picked up two identical fresh metric 200 transmissions. Everything is bolted back in the car with the exception of the drive shaft which should be in hand Monday. See you guys in Bowling Green May 18th.

HandOverFist · 04-27-2014, 12:09 PM

Anyone here running a similar car to ours? I'm thinking about ordering Landrum mono's and the spring rate I need I'm unsure of. The car only has 1330 pounds on the rear...think the 150 pound springs would be too light?

Update: Took the split-mono's off today and put the original stock mono leaf springs back on the car. It feels much better now...will have to test it to find out if I went the right direction.

04-22-2014, 04:08 PM	#191
HandOverFist VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Gulf Breeze, FL Posts: 1,651 Likes: 8 Liked 33 Times in 16 Posts	Re: '67 Camaro E/SA redo The wheels are turning, hehe. __________________ Rich Taylor I/SA - 321

04-24-2014, 11:36 AM	#193
HandOverFist VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Gulf Breeze, FL Posts: 1,651 Likes: 8 Liked 33 Times in 16 Posts	Re: '67 Camaro E/SA redo Just got confirmation this morning that the 200 case was cracked as well. Even with all the components being replaced on this car I want to get as many eyes on it as I can before it goes back out. The builder of the new drive shaft reports that the old shaft was just slightly out of balance...I'm thinking it had little to do with our problems. The following parts have been checked and/or will be replaced - New drive shaft w/1350 yokes New tubular transmission crossmember (will stick with the poly mount) New solid motor mounts (both being equal height) Sub-frame bushings checked for tightness My best guess is the mis-matched motor mounts were the primary cause of most of the woes we have experienced...have yet to come up with a logical reason for someone doing that. I believe the original slapper bar traction device masked/cushioned the problem. With the introduction of the Caltrac's and the subsequent higher shock loads things began to fail. With everything in it's proper place and working together I predict some low 1.40's in 60' times. Btw, the torque convertor appears to be unscathed. __________________ Rich Taylor I/SA - 321

04-24-2014, 11:52 AM	#194
FED 387 VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 3,422 Likes: 531 Liked 333 Times in 180 Posts	Re: '67 Camaro E/SA redo do u have the side stiffening bars on your trans case??? FED 387

04-24-2014, 12:01 PM	#195
Robert Simpson Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Jacksonville, Florida Posts: 808 Likes: 7 Liked 20 Times in 12 Posts	Re: '67 Camaro E/SA redo Rich, where did you get the tubular trans cross member from? Is it lighter? Or easier to install? Thanks

04-24-2014, 12:13 PM	#196
HandOverFist VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Gulf Breeze, FL Posts: 1,651 Likes: 8 Liked 33 Times in 16 Posts	Re: '67 Camaro E/SA redo Yes FED, but there is only so much they can do with my abuse lol! New crossmember from http://srdparts.com/index.php?page=s...emart&Itemid=1 Appears to be a quality piece and it will help with the shift cable routing. __________________ Rich Taylor I/SA - 321

04-24-2014, 02:47 PM	#197
Dion Hildebrandt Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: calgary alberta canada Posts: 383 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: '67 Camaro E/SA redo When you get all of these parts in place with the proper mounts and such ,spend some time measuring up your driveline angles. I suspect you may find that they may not be at ideal angles. I say this only because of the violence you described with the diff situation, it reminds me of the troubles I had with my car. The root cause of my issues were the engine/trans and diff were doing this ( \-/ ) as an over simplified example. I kept knocking out driveline parts until we corrected that issue. Nothing more frustrating than chasing a problem that hides in the shadows. good luck with the car __________________ Dion Hildebrandt 6009 STK H/SA

04-25-2014, 01:00 AM	#198
HandOverFist VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Gulf Breeze, FL Posts: 1,651 Likes: 8 Liked 33 Times in 16 Posts	Re: '67 Camaro E/SA redo The angles were perfect until the perch's collapsed... __________________ Rich Taylor I/SA - 321

04-26-2014, 09:11 PM	#199
HandOverFist VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Gulf Breeze, FL Posts: 1,651 Likes: 8 Liked 33 Times in 16 Posts	Re: '67 Camaro E/SA redo Thomas Arnett comes thru once again. Drove to KY this morning with a buddy who is building a '68 Camaro E/SA and we picked up two identical fresh metric 200 transmissions. Everything is bolted back in the car with the exception of the drive shaft which should be in hand Monday. See you guys in Bowling Green May 18th. __________________ Rich Taylor I/SA - 321

04-27-2014, 12:09 PM	#200
HandOverFist VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Gulf Breeze, FL Posts: 1,651 Likes: 8 Liked 33 Times in 16 Posts	Re: '67 Camaro E/SA redo Anyone here running a similar car to ours? I'm thinking about ordering Landrum mono's and the spring rate I need I'm unsure of. The car only has 1330 pounds on the rear...think the 150 pound springs would be too light? Update: Took the split-mono's off today and put the original stock mono leaf springs back on the car. It feels much better now...will have to test it to find out if I went the right direction. __________________ Rich Taylor I/SA - 321 Last edited by HandOverFist; 04-27-2014 at 07:14 PM.