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Old 08-13-2021, 02:27 PM   #1
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An existing transmission rule that appears to not be being enforced, is the rule stating that you have to use the clutch to change gears, and specifically banning clutchless gearboxes. I'm not gonna point fingers, but I'm seeing a lot of in-car videos of stockers clearly showing gearchanges made without touching the clutch.
you pull it hard enough don't need to use the clutch
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Old 08-13-2021, 02:30 PM   #2
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An existing transmission rule that appears to not be being enforced, is the rule stating that you have to use the clutch to change gears, and specifically banning clutchless gearboxes. I'm not gonna point fingers, but I'm seeing a lot of in-car videos of stockers clearly showing gearchanges made without touching the clutch.
I have a 2004 Dodge 2500 diesel and an 83 Mustang GT with a T-5 that I can shift without the clutch, neither at WOT, but I'm pretty sure just about any aftermarket stick shift can be shifted w/o clutch.
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Old 08-13-2021, 03:59 PM   #3
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I have a 2004 Dodge 2500 diesel and an 83 Mustang GT with a T-5 that I can shift without the clutch, neither at WOT, but I'm pretty sure just about any aftermarket stick shift can be shifted w/o clutch.
The rule defines how the transmission is to be used, regardless of what it is capable of.
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Old 08-13-2021, 12:37 PM   #4
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I think the fact that they are combined in FS is good, I would argue that are many in SS and stock that also should be combined. I
It would increase the heads up runs slightly.
The good automatics are as quick as the stickshifts in most cases and some are quicker.
No in high gear ..


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No in high gear ..


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Ron, a stick car could and probably will be faster in high gear,not quicker. Remember that we race the entire track and part of that track is the beginning of tthe track.

Good automatic cars will own the front half of the track vs a similar car with a stick in many classes.

I am not saying they all would work, but there are many that do.

I can’t imagine an automatic FS Car Being afraid of a stick car unless they beat their hp to death already compared to the same car with a stick.
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Old 08-13-2021, 11:04 PM   #6
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I think that the way automatic and manual transmissions are ran today that they should just go ahead and put them all in one class. ....... or either go back to the way it used to be: what ever came from factory is what should be used.
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Old 08-13-2021, 12:57 PM   #7
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The good automatics are as quick as the stickshifts in most cases and some are quicker.


And yet they don't share the same horsepower factors.
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Old 08-13-2021, 12:02 PM   #8
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An argument for this would be that a stick shift car can run an aftermarket transmission.
I thought the Jerico and G-Force transmissions are already legal in the classes?
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I thought the Jerico and G-Force transmissions are already legal in the classes?
They are- that's his point...
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Old 08-13-2021, 02:53 PM   #10
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So, I am just thinking out loud on this.

Since all the new Factory Cars all run aftermarket SFI versions of Chevrolet transmissions, is it time to allow them for all combinations?

An argument for this would be that a stick shift car can run an aftermarket transmission.

An argument against would be that it would dilute Stock/SS one more time.

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