New S/SS NHRA Horsepower Adjustments - Page 2

Billy Pires · 11-19-2007, 08:09 PM

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dean ribeiro · 11-19-2007, 08:26 PM

the stick LT-1 car which I sold today looks better and better!!

Eric Cabral · 11-19-2007, 09:14 PM

Dearest Stockracer,
I run a combo that is not that popular.That is the point.There is no reason to get ourselves hp.If we are being combined w/the FI cars they are faster than us period! There are also more of them! It irritates me that there is no reason to put the combo in a position for hp. It's like a comp guy bombing the index on a redlight!!!! I have worked my *** off for the last five years to make my car fast. IT doesn't matter if it's 2 pounds or 200 pounds.It's the principal. It was most likely the convertible that did it. Heres the deal do the math. My car in M 13.15 index min 3040, his car in P 13.65 index 3280 min. 5 tenths for 240 pounds! Hello he doesn't have to make within 25 hp of me to hit the index. That is just irritating. There are plenty of F and G injected stick cars out there moving over. It just puts me at a little more of a disadvantage. That is why I am upset. If you own one of these combos and you did it, good job DONKEY if not stay out of it!! If you want to debate call me i'll be more than glad to talk!!!!
Eric
M/S 1546

countrypuppy4865 · 11-19-2007, 09:28 PM

I am with Billy on that one..

james schaechter · 11-19-2007, 09:53 PM

Eric, I don't have any Fords, but if you race long enough, yo ucan be the recipient of unfortunate hp gifts. It has happened to our car 3 times. It takes years to get that back. ( If ever) The Nitro stats show that only one car triggered and that was Sommers, but anyone over one second under at a National Event contributed towards keeping the family avg. more than a second under. That would be Sommers and you.
I don't show Dyer more than a second under.
Look at the bright side. I don't think that Dude with the Convertible is a P car anymore. Maybe you should come out to Indy and get him this year!

J Gower · 11-19-2007, 10:01 PM

Eric; Yes there are some fast lower class FI cars moving over, but FI cars are going to put a hurtin on most everyone in every class. Gary put this car together about 2 years ago and it is fast. He also just set the N-stick record in Reynolds last month. Stockracer does not have one of these combo, so you can debate all you want to with him, but your 1.084 under run helped the combo get HP. Dryer ran .927 under in M/S and .932 under in N/S. Also that Trance Baker listed in Nitro Joe's stat in O/S was driving Gary's car at the Bowling Green Pts. Meet. He went 1.025 under and that was the first time he had ever got behind the wheel of that car. J.Gower Stock 3058

Speedracer · 11-19-2007, 10:10 PM

Is there any kind of technical inspection before horsepower is given?
What if some of these combinations were on the juice?

keith ohanesian · 11-19-2007, 10:21 PM

Eric, welcome to land of 305's. We got screwed and guuuuud by all. We were like a 3 dollar crack *****, we just got smacked by everybody... It happens.

And Mr. LEE do u and Mr. Mike B go out to dinner and figure out ways to drive us all crazy. U guys are almost as bad as the dirty Santa looking guy with the Buick. Get another hobby!

Eric Cabral · 11-19-2007, 10:23 PM

I understand I helped by going over a sec under. But I was smart enough to not set the trigger. With the air at the reading race I easily could have been in the 11's but added weight and backed it down to stay below. I was 100 pounds heavy and shortshifted to stay safe.It just drives me crazy to see this happen from someone else. I want to know where the two triggers were because that is what it takes, correct? If I was a B or H car etc it happens. A lot of heads ups there. Not in a class w/six of us where there is no need now, but will be w/FI cars coming over.Just venting Time to go back to making more hp I guess.
Eric
I know Keith I suppose I shouldn't complain about 3 hp but you know where I'm coming from.I love the analogy!!!!!

Rich Biebel · 11-19-2007, 10:33 PM

This is one of the reasons I sold my car.....Everytime you turn around there are changes either proposed or made. Buttons. no buttons,(I never used one) F.I classes come and then they go. In the mid 90's I raced a traditional stocker for a year or two, a 69 Nova. The F.I cars show up and can run so much faster than regular cars, I sold it. A few years later, FI cars get their own classes. They look way cool so I get tempted again to mess with one of these and put one together. Runs decent but not real fast. OK I'll stick with it and work at making it better. Then low and behold NHRA is going to lump the classes back together and I get to run against various BB musle cars,,,some that really don't exist if you ask me.....and I get to add weight!!! I was sorry to sell it but know the new owner is commited to Stock and will get it running quicker and faster....Good Luck to you all In Stock....I'm outa here.....

11-19-2007, 08:09 PM	#11
Billy Pires Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Somerset, MA Posts: 99 Likes: 6 Liked 23 Times in 3 Posts	Re: New S/SS NHRA Horsepower Adjustments Daaammmmmmmmnnnnnniiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiitttt ttttttttttttttttttttttttt __________________ Billy Pires 1414 STK, 1414 SS

11-19-2007, 08:26 PM	#12
dean ribeiro Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: candia, nh Posts: 517 Likes: 58 Liked 235 Times in 75 Posts	Re: New S/SS NHRA Horsepower Adjustments the stick LT-1 car which I sold today looks better and better!!

11-19-2007, 09:14 PM	#13
Eric Cabral Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 15 Likes: 0 Liked 3 Times in 1 Post	Re: New S/SS NHRA Horsepower Adjustments Dearest Stockracer, I run a combo that is not that popular.That is the point.There is no reason to get ourselves hp.If we are being combined w/the FI cars they are faster than us period! There are also more of them! It irritates me that there is no reason to put the combo in a position for hp. It's like a comp guy bombing the index on a redlight!!!! I have worked my *** off for the last five years to make my car fast. IT doesn't matter if it's 2 pounds or 200 pounds.It's the principal. It was most likely the convertible that did it. Heres the deal do the math. My car in M 13.15 index min 3040, his car in P 13.65 index 3280 min. 5 tenths for 240 pounds! Hello he doesn't have to make within 25 hp of me to hit the index. That is just irritating. There are plenty of F and G injected stick cars out there moving over. It just puts me at a little more of a disadvantage. That is why I am upset. If you own one of these combos and you did it, good job DONKEY if not stay out of it!! If you want to debate call me i'll be more than glad to talk!!!! Eric M/S 1546

11-19-2007, 09:28 PM	#14
countrypuppy4865 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Donaldsonville, LA Posts: 980 Likes: 17 Liked 228 Times in 70 Posts	Re: New S/SS NHRA Horsepower Adjustments I am with Billy on that one..

11-19-2007, 09:53 PM	#15
james schaechter VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cumming GA Posts: 1,991 Likes: 1,289 Liked 1,430 Times in 298 Posts	Re: New S/SS NHRA Horsepower Adjustments Eric, I don't have any Fords, but if you race long enough, yo ucan be the recipient of unfortunate hp gifts. It has happened to our car 3 times. It takes years to get that back. ( If ever) The Nitro stats show that only one car triggered and that was Sommers, but anyone over one second under at a National Event contributed towards keeping the family avg. more than a second under. That would be Sommers and you. I don't show Dyer more than a second under. Look at the bright side. I don't think that Dude with the Convertible is a P car anymore. Maybe you should come out to Indy and get him this year! __________________ James Schaechter 3163 STK

11-19-2007, 10:01 PM	#16
J Gower Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Leitchfield, Ky. Posts: 130 Likes: 19 Liked 20 Times in 8 Posts	Re: New S/SS NHRA Horsepower Adjustments Eric; Yes there are some fast lower class FI cars moving over, but FI cars are going to put a hurtin on most everyone in every class. Gary put this car together about 2 years ago and it is fast. He also just set the N-stick record in Reynolds last month. Stockracer does not have one of these combo, so you can debate all you want to with him, but your 1.084 under run helped the combo get HP. Dryer ran .927 under in M/S and .932 under in N/S. Also that Trance Baker listed in Nitro Joe's stat in O/S was driving Gary's car at the Bowling Green Pts. Meet. He went 1.025 under and that was the first time he had ever got behind the wheel of that car. J.Gower Stock 3058

11-19-2007, 10:10 PM	#17
Speedracer Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 59 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: New S/SS NHRA Horsepower Adjustments Is there any kind of technical inspection before horsepower is given? What if some of these combinations were on the juice?

11-19-2007, 10:21 PM	#18
keith ohanesian Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 392 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: New S/SS NHRA Horsepower Adjustments Eric, welcome to land of 305's. We got screwed and guuuuud by all. We were like a 3 dollar crack *****, we just got smacked by everybody... It happens. And Mr. LEE do u and Mr. Mike B go out to dinner and figure out ways to drive us all crazy. U guys are almost as bad as the dirty Santa looking guy with the Buick. Get another hobby! __________________ No prep is king

11-19-2007, 10:23 PM	#19
Eric Cabral Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 15 Likes: 0 Liked 3 Times in 1 Post	Re: New S/SS NHRA Horsepower Adjustments I understand I helped by going over a sec under. But I was smart enough to not set the trigger. With the air at the reading race I easily could have been in the 11's but added weight and backed it down to stay below. I was 100 pounds heavy and shortshifted to stay safe.It just drives me crazy to see this happen from someone else. I want to know where the two triggers were because that is what it takes, correct? If I was a B or H car etc it happens. A lot of heads ups there. Not in a class w/six of us where there is no need now, but will be w/FI cars coming over.Just venting Time to go back to making more hp I guess. Eric I know Keith I suppose I shouldn't complain about 3 hp but you know where I'm coming from.I love the analogy!!!!! Last edited by Eric Cabral; 11-19-2007 at 10:27 PM.

11-19-2007, 10:33 PM	#20
Rich Biebel VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Northern New Jersey suburbs Posts: 2,314 Likes: 25 Liked 544 Times in 213 Posts	Re: New S/SS NHRA Horsepower Adjustments This is one of the reasons I sold my car.....Everytime you turn around there are changes either proposed or made. Buttons. no buttons,(I never used one) F.I classes come and then they go. In the mid 90's I raced a traditional stocker for a year or two, a 69 Nova. The F.I cars show up and can run so much faster than regular cars, I sold it. A few years later, FI cars get their own classes. They look way cool so I get tempted again to mess with one of these and put one together. Runs decent but not real fast. OK I'll stick with it and work at making it better. Then low and behold NHRA is going to lump the classes back together and I get to run against various BB musle cars,,,some that really don't exist if you ask me.....and I get to add weight!!! I was sorry to sell it but know the new owner is commited to Stock and will get it running quicker and faster....Good Luck to you all In Stock....I'm outa here..... __________________ Rich Biebel S/C 1479 Stock 147R