2019 Challenger 1320 is now legal for Stock and Super Stock - Page 2

BRINK · 04-16-2019, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by David Hakim

You're welcome.

http://media.fcanorthamerica.com/new...d=20748&mid=82

Have to hand it to Mopar. They don't f around. What about it GM ?

X-TECH MAN · 04-16-2019, 04:13 PM

Bfd !

RJ Sledge · 04-16-2019, 05:56 PM

"Why not start with the factory HP ratings and then let the AHFS level the playing field?"

Never work .....makes too much sense!

RJ

Mike Gray · 04-16-2019, 07:27 PM

While I like the car, it makes me wonder what I'm doing spending the amount of money I have in building an older car for stock eliminator. The car I'm building will fit right in there with the Dodge in B stock. No amount of money can make my car as fast as this Dodge is going to be. If NHRA factored my hp rating the same my 355 factory hp would be rated at 285. Now that would be competitive!

Dave Sheehan · 04-16-2019, 08:38 PM

Awesome !! Love it....

ss3011 · 04-16-2019, 08:46 PM

I think the transmission is a 9 speed automatic, based on a ZF design . There won't be too many racers that will be running that transmission , most will run a 727 or a 904 . Just like the engine will be running on an aftermarket controller , all these features that the production car have, are integrated into the factory ecm . With all these factory systems removed , it would be so illegal to have a 727 with a brake , or some sort of traction control ,and claim its stock , that if found , would for sure win you some time off . If the car was totally stock , it would be hard for NHRA to make it illegal , kind of like if you used a rental car . Most probably have traction control , but nobody has gotten bounced for it . Using aftermarket or not original parts , you would have a problem , saying its just stock . A little rambling , but you get the point . If the car has a feature that is stock , how would you prove it is disabled , best to have it totally removed .

Dave Sheehan · 04-16-2019, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ss3011

I think the transmission is a 9 speed automatic, based on a ZF design.

It's an 8 speed ZF8HP70. The Hellcats and Demons get the ZF8HP90. I believe the 9 speed is for FWD cars.

Bruce Noland · 04-16-2019, 11:18 PM

If they are claiming this as another underrated combination that they are shoving into regular Stock and Super Stock classes again, then something is really foul in Glendora. I guess this combination lost 100 HP and 600 lbs during the approval process just like the Camaros and Fords before it. So who is getting over in this deal? The OEM's or nhra? I would argue that it is nhra because it is nhra's intent to keep punching the Stock racers in the gut until they can no longer take it and walk away. nhra has reduced car counts, abandoned their oversight responsibilities and it continues to unleash these cheater cars on the rest of us. One of these is probably already testing in Louisiana as we discuss this latest transgression. All of us know what is going on and the OEM's could care less. I hope they have the camera crews set up again, at the scales at Indy. We just love watching guys celebrating with their cheater cars in the background.

04-16-2019, 04:13 PM	#2
X-TECH MAN Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Lake Placid, Florida Posts: 3,203 Likes: 1,047 Liked 235 Times in 110 Posts	Re: 2019 Challenger 1320 is now legal for Stock and Super St Bfd !

04-16-2019, 05:56 PM	#3
RJ Sledge Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 792 Likes: 507 Liked 294 Times in 93 Posts	Re: 2019 Challenger 1320 is now legal for Stock and Super St "Why not start with the factory HP ratings and then let the AHFS level the playing field?" Never work .....makes too much sense! RJ

04-16-2019, 07:27 PM	#4
Mike Gray Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 628 Likes: 318 Liked 705 Times in 204 Posts	Re: 2019 Challenger 1320 is now legal for Stock and Super St While I like the car, it makes me wonder what I'm doing spending the amount of money I have in building an older car for stock eliminator. The car I'm building will fit right in there with the Dodge in B stock. No amount of money can make my car as fast as this Dodge is going to be. If NHRA factored my hp rating the same my 355 factory hp would be rated at 285. Now that would be competitive!

04-16-2019, 08:38 PM	#5
Dave Sheehan Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: Deland, Fl. Posts: 6 Likes: 2 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: 2019 Challenger 1320 is now legal for Stock and Super St Awesome !! Love it.... __________________ F/SA W228

04-16-2019, 08:46 PM	#6
ss3011 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Southeast Michigan Posts: 910 Likes: 70 Liked 239 Times in 114 Posts	Re: 2019 Challenger 1320 is now legal for Stock and Super St I think the transmission is a 9 speed automatic, based on a ZF design . There won't be too many racers that will be running that transmission , most will run a 727 or a 904 . Just like the engine will be running on an aftermarket controller , all these features that the production car have, are integrated into the factory ecm . With all these factory systems removed , it would be so illegal to have a 727 with a brake , or some sort of traction control ,and claim its stock , that if found , would for sure win you some time off . If the car was totally stock , it would be hard for NHRA to make it illegal , kind of like if you used a rental car . Most probably have traction control , but nobody has gotten bounced for it . Using aftermarket or not original parts , you would have a problem , saying its just stock . A little rambling , but you get the point . If the car has a feature that is stock , how would you prove it is disabled , best to have it totally removed .

04-16-2019, 11:18 PM	#8
Bruce Noland VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,855 Likes: 83 Liked 444 Times in 145 Posts	Re: 2019 Challenger 1320 is now legal for Stock and Super St If they are claiming this as another underrated combination that they are shoving into regular Stock and Super Stock classes again, then something is really foul in Glendora. I guess this combination lost 100 HP and 600 lbs during the approval process just like the Camaros and Fords before it. So who is getting over in this deal? The OEM's or nhra? I would argue that it is nhra because it is nhra's intent to keep punching the Stock racers in the gut until they can no longer take it and walk away. nhra has reduced car counts, abandoned their oversight responsibilities and it continues to unleash these cheater cars on the rest of us. One of these is probably already testing in Louisiana as we discuss this latest transgression. All of us know what is going on and the OEM's could care less. I hope they have the camera crews set up again, at the scales at Indy. We just love watching guys celebrating with their cheater cars in the background. __________________ Bruce Noland 1788 STK