Apparently Div7 has more than 1 rule book !!!

[MR DERBY CITY]

Bob Aceves, I assure you that James Schaechter is indeed a racer. Unfortunately with NHRA ,rule enforcement varies within the 7 Divisions. As far as Division 7 turning a blind eye to this heads up run.......What happens in Vegas.stays in Vegas....M.J.

[Jeff Stout]

, LA.

Posts: 595

*Stk & SS rule reminder on ice in staging lanes.

Stock and Super Stock*Staging*lane Rule Reminder 8/21/2014


Stock and Super Stock*Staging*lane Rule Reminder
This is a reminder to all Stock and Super Stock Racers that prior to reaching the head of the*staging*lanes*all ice, towels, rags, etc must be removed per the 2014 NHRA Rulebook General Regulations, Section 20, page 5, Fuel /Air –

Fuel/Air: Any method of artificially cooling or heating fuel prohibited (i.e.,*coolcans, Freon, wet rags, etc.), except as noted*in*Class Requirements.*Cool*cans, wet towels, etc. are permitted*in*Super Stock, Stock, Super Comp, Super Gas, Super Street, and E.T. classes. Wet towels, rags, ice, etc. must be removed before vehicle leaves*staging*area. Ambient- temperature air only; cooling or otherwise changing the conditions of the intake air is prohibited. Spraying of intake with any artificial spray or coolant prohibited.
So whats the problem? Written in black and white before indy nationals last year. Ice was brought in staging and fluid leaked in track which required down time. Sounds like 2 violations. Right or wrong?

[west coast]

Some tracks the scales and fuel check are before the time slip booth like Boise, Mission you are in line before you get to both are at the same spot, Spokane, Vegas also atleast the last time i was there.

[SStockDart]

It is a simple thumbs up if you improved and thumbs down if you didn't. Usually right before scales or fuel check....whichever comes first....why waste everyones time to fuel check or weigh if the run does not count????? Btw I have no complaints with
Mike Rice..

[james schaechter]

Originally Posted by B Aceves

So your saying I'f the losing car has no chance than it should not matter ??
one of the reasons i hate posting on this site is because of responses like this ...
it's coming directly from a damn good racer who was in the other lane.
and to say I'f the loosing car has no chance makes a difference ?? Huh
are you even a racer ??

I am a racer, and I understand the application of rules. But if someone posts in a vague way about an event instead of a specific way, there is usually more to the story for sure. And if the person posting was the person that was beaten because of the ice being dumped in the lane, why not post all of the detail and what he or she wanted from NHRA?

If it was good enough to post, why not post all of the detail. If I was racing and got beat heads up by someone that dumped ice on the track, I would ask myself if the outcome would have been different. If the other guy had me covered, The ice wouldn't have changed things.

Since NHRA should have been watching to administer their own rules and didn't then that is a problem. If it was an oil down, NHRAs oil down police would site the offending racer with a warning or a fine if they had to roll any equipment.
If I felt NHRA should have bounced the other racer, I would have complained to an official directly. If I felt that I had no chance of winning as a result of the ice being spilled in the other lane, and it was really a complaint about NHRA playing favorites or just being generally uninvolved when they should be, I would still go to the division director. Many people post on the Internet expecting a change and never talk with NHRA.

Like I said earlier, just a very vague post.