Do you race your stocker/super stocker at "regular" races? - Page 2

jmcarter · 04-13-2013, 09:41 AM

Big pro is brackets keep you sharp but you can set up a "cheaper" bracket car such that it's very close to your class car. To me the biggest drawback is a class car is usually on a ~200 run freshen interval vs. ~500 run bracket motor.

Michael Beard · 04-13-2013, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by jmcarter

Big pro is brackets keep you sharp but you can set up a "cheaper" bracket car such that it's very close to your class car. To me the biggest drawback is a class car is usually on a ~200 run freshen interval vs. ~500 run bracket motor.

I bracket race my Class cars. While I have the bracket car my dad built and still race it from time to time, my Super Stocker is faster and more consistent, and the additional seat time is invaluable, particularly since so many Class events are limited runs spread over multiple days. If you were starting out from scratch, I would think it would be cheaper to build and maintain one car than two...

Last time the bracket car was freshened was 2001, and the Class car typically gets something fresh more out of want than need.

GarysZ24 · 04-14-2013, 06:25 PM

I haven't done it primarily because my stocker is slower than the NHRA Pro ET brackets et limit (I believe 13.99 sec.). Sportsman payouts are much lower than Stock (or Pro ET), payouts are. I didn't build my car to race for $200 bucks or less (regularly). However, for now it doesn't really matter since (for the time being anyway), metro Phoenix has no tracks to race at, and thus the only bracket racing I could do would be in the No-Box class at S.I.R. in Tucson, for the IHRA. Their bracket category at least pays $550 for the winner ($700 if more than 32 cars). Only if a divisional is coming up that I can attend, would I race my car for what the Sportsman brackets pay, due to the seat time needed...regularly though? Not...

Furthermore, I don't have the pleasure of storing my racing operation where I live, and that creates more challenges with my being able to race in a state, that due to summertime heat, races late in the afternoon, until midnight...not good if the person you store your rig with doesn't have the same interest/desires...

Robbie Draughon · 04-14-2013, 10:50 PM

I bracket race my stick shift super stocker almost every weekend. Run bracket points in no box at Fayetteville (my home track). Usually put over 300 runs a year on my car. I have a log book full of info for about any situation because of bracket racing. Seat time means more than anything you do. Why spend thousands of dollars and hours working on your car and not spend as much time working on your driver?

RonTheAnnouncer · 04-15-2013, 09:59 AM

I've had the pleasure of watching Robbi make lots of passes down the track at the 2 big money bracket races I've announced in NC. The car looks as good as it goes, and Robbie is a heck of a driver!

cad · 04-15-2013, 01:09 PM

I would highly recommend getting more of the Stock guys/gals to get more seat time racing PRO ET (Summit Series), or the No-Box class on Non-Summit weekends. I know Brad and Scott Burton ran the Summit series at home in D5 as I saw them at the ET Finals in Topeka two years ago.
There is no replacement for seat time. The practice tree only goes so far.
I personally know Matt Harris who raced his Cutlas Comp car with a bracket engine in 2009/2010 until the Grand Am was rebuilt, and Shaun Vincent bracket raced his "new" S/S Trans Am a handful of times over the last year few years with a bracket engine, and last year with their SS engine. Both did very well.
The only draw back for S/S in Pro ET is, technically, the car cannot have a data acquisition computer connected while racing.

Clark

Lee Valentine · 04-15-2013, 05:53 PM

Ran super pro at Lebanon valley yesterday seat time never hurts. c/sa 97 firebird.

Li'l Rick Pennington · 04-23-2013, 02:18 PM

I lucked up and pulled off a win in No Box Saturday night at Montgomery with Robert Hindman's D/SA Cobra Jet.

Li'l Rick

Dion Hildebrandt · 04-23-2013, 02:43 PM

Yes I run regular brackets with my stocker.....usually go rounds too ...

ALMACK · 04-23-2013, 03:37 PM

Ran my T-Bird Stocker for the first time Sat. night at our local DOT bracket races. Semi final finish.

Did some time trials with the lightweight 30 " Hoosier slicks.
Then switched to 6 year old- 28" tall heavy M&H DOT drag radials. (as required to have in the class)

Car ran the same e.t. either way.

04-13-2013, 09:41 AM	#11
jmcarter VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Richmond Hill GA (and Port Ludlow WA) Posts: 4,295 Likes: 2,378 Liked 3,174 Times in 971 Posts	Re: Do you race your stocker/super stocker at "regular" race Big pro is brackets keep you sharp but you can set up a "cheaper" bracket car such that it's very close to your class car. To me the biggest drawback is a class car is usually on a ~200 run freshen interval vs. ~500 run bracket motor. __________________ Jim Carter 2340 Super Stock 2340 SST/2340 Stock Set another place at the table

04-14-2013, 06:25 PM	#13
GarysZ24 VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Tempe, Az. Posts: 1,268 Likes: 906 Liked 237 Times in 93 Posts	Re: Do you race your stocker/super stocker at "regular" race I haven't done it primarily because my stocker is slower than the NHRA Pro ET brackets et limit (I believe 13.99 sec.). Sportsman payouts are much lower than Stock (or Pro ET), payouts are. I didn't build my car to race for $200 bucks or less (regularly). However, for now it doesn't really matter since (for the time being anyway), metro Phoenix has no tracks to race at, and thus the only bracket racing I could do would be in the No-Box class at S.I.R. in Tucson, for the IHRA. Their bracket category at least pays $550 for the winner ($700 if more than 32 cars). Only if a divisional is coming up that I can attend, would I race my car for what the Sportsman brackets pay, due to the seat time needed...regularly though? Not... Furthermore, I don't have the pleasure of storing my racing operation where I live, and that creates more challenges with my being able to race in a state, that due to summertime heat, races late in the afternoon, until midnight...not good if the person you store your rig with doesn't have the same interest/desires... __________________ Gary Hampton '86 Z24,173 V6 CF/S #5824 (#78 in 2021) Last edited by GarysZ24; 04-15-2013 at 11:53 PM.

04-14-2013, 10:50 PM	#14
Robbie Draughon Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Fayetteville, NC Posts: 77 Likes: 14 Liked 29 Times in 5 Posts	Re: Do you race your stocker/super stocker at "regular" race I bracket race my stick shift super stocker almost every weekend. Run bracket points in no box at Fayetteville (my home track). Usually put over 300 runs a year on my car. I have a log book full of info for about any situation because of bracket racing. Seat time means more than anything you do. Why spend thousands of dollars and hours working on your car and not spend as much time working on your driver? __________________ SS/AM 2917

04-15-2013, 09:59 AM	#15
RonTheAnnouncer Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Ravenna, OH Posts: 60 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Do you race your stocker/super stocker at "regular" race I've had the pleasure of watching Robbi make lots of passes down the track at the 2 big money bracket races I've announced in NC. The car looks as good as it goes, and Robbie is a heck of a driver! __________________ Ron Huntley, Jr. announcer and Half ed racer "Those who can, do. Those who can't, criticize."

04-15-2013, 01:09 PM	#16
cad Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 702 Likes: 202 Liked 91 Times in 51 Posts	Re: Do you race your stocker/super stocker at "regular" race I would highly recommend getting more of the Stock guys/gals to get more seat time racing PRO ET (Summit Series), or the No-Box class on Non-Summit weekends. I know Brad and Scott Burton ran the Summit series at home in D5 as I saw them at the ET Finals in Topeka two years ago. There is no replacement for seat time. The practice tree only goes so far. I personally know Matt Harris who raced his Cutlas Comp car with a bracket engine in 2009/2010 until the Grand Am was rebuilt, and Shaun Vincent bracket raced his "new" S/S Trans Am a handful of times over the last year few years with a bracket engine, and last year with their SS engine. Both did very well. The only draw back for S/S in Pro ET is, technically, the car cannot have a data acquisition computer connected while racing. Clark

04-15-2013, 05:53 PM	#17
Lee Valentine Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Brookfield, CT Posts: 708 Likes: 13 Liked 319 Times in 68 Posts	Re: Do you race your stocker/super stocker at "regular" race Ran super pro at Lebanon valley yesterday seat time never hurts. c/sa 97 firebird. __________________ Lee Valentine 1661 STK

04-23-2013, 02:18 PM	#18
Li'l Rick Pennington Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 28 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Do you race your stocker/super stocker at "regular" race I lucked up and pulled off a win in No Box Saturday night at Montgomery with Robert Hindman's D/SA Cobra Jet. Li'l Rick Attached Thumbnails

04-23-2013, 02:43 PM	#19
Dion Hildebrandt Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: calgary alberta canada Posts: 383 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Do you race your stocker/super stocker at "regular" race Yes I run regular brackets with my stocker.....usually go rounds too ... __________________ Dion Hildebrandt 6009 STK H/SA

04-23-2013, 03:37 PM	#20
ALMACK VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Bardstown, KY Posts: 1,937 Likes: 131 Liked 369 Times in 127 Posts	Re: Do you race your stocker/super stocker at "regular" race Ran my T-Bird Stocker for the first time Sat. night at our local DOT bracket races. Semi final finish. Did some time trials with the lightweight 30 " Hoosier slicks. Then switched to 6 year old- 28" tall heavy M&H DOT drag radials. (as required to have in the class) Car ran the same e.t. either way. __________________ Alan Mackin Stock 3777/ SS 3377 P/SA & SS/PA Fox Thunderbird I/PS '95 Mustang GT