A gift from Ford for the lower classes @235hp

[GUMP]

Originally Posted by Charley Downing

Yes Danny race IHRA where everyone gets there own class and heads ups are a thing of the past.

As much as I love the IHRA I have to agree that the fuel injected classes are bad for Stock Eliminator.

Chad you can't tell me that the mustang 281ci combo is any better then Wade Owens 283ci combo. Hell wade is going 11.50s in K/SA. do you really think a 281ci ford is going to out run Wade's 283. Which is 15hp less then the new 281ci ford

I think that you will be surprised at what the Modular will put out.

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by GUMP

As much as I love the IHRA I have to agree that the fuel injected classes are bad for Stock Eliminator.




I think that you will be surprised at what the Modular will put out.

As long as NHRA and IHRA dont do SOMETHING about the bogus HP ratings then keeping them seperate from the old cars is a good thing. When the racing ASSociations get their act together on this joke THEN drop the FI classes and run them together. All you guys with the new cars want is more heads up runs against the older combos so you can have a free ride into the next round or a class (?) win.

[JRyan]

Charlie.
The 140hp 307 Olds is rated 240 hp. The 85 flat top 305 in a Camaro is rated 262, an 82 dish piston Camaro is 244 and the Malibu 230. Wades 283 is rated 217hp and the 138hp roller Olds is 213hp.
Both of the engines rated less then the 281 have far less compression and the 283 has a .399 lift cam. The roller 307 has a horrible intake and head design.
So @ 235 it may not be greatly underfactored but it should be a lot better then the dished piston 305 or 140hp Olds for certain.

Rick Ryan

[Charley Downing]

The 240hp olds 307 is a very bad combo. I was looking more at the 213hp olds 307 with a 400 plus lift cam and a 800 carb.

[keith ohanesian]

It has a 65 mm throttle body!CNC'd 3 valve head! That thing should start at 260!
I don't care let those thing run with us.. I grew up watching Dale Sr. race and learned how to put someone into the wall.

Originally Posted by JRyan

Charlie.
The 140hp 307 Olds is rated 240 hp. The 85 flat top 305 in a Camaro is rated 262, an 82 dish piston Camaro is 244 and the Malibu 230. Wades 283 is rated 217hp and the 138hp roller Olds is 213hp.
Both of the engines rated less then the 281 have far less compression and the 283 has a .399 lift cam. The roller 307 has a horrible intake and head design.
So @ 235 it may not be greatly underfactored but it should be a lot better then the dished piston 305 or 140hp Olds for certain.

Rick Ryan

[GUMP]

Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN

As long as NHRA and IHRA dont do SOMETHING about the bogus HP ratings then keeping them seperate from the old cars is a good thing. When the racing ASSociations get their act together on this joke THEN drop the FI classes and run them together.

If the IHRA would stick to the NHRA factors they wouldn't need the fuel injected classes. That is of course, except for the 2008+ factory cars.

All you guys with the new cars want is more heads up runs against the older combos so you can have a free ride into the next round or a class (?) win.

That is a dumb thing to say.

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by GUMP

If the IHRA would stick to the NHRA factors they wouldn't need the fuel injected classes. That is of course, except for the 2008+ factory cars.

I agree that IHRA should follow the NHRA HP factors. Like you said even if they did the 2008+ cars will have a major advantage over the older cars. Its the number one reason to keep them seperate until the HP factors catch up to reason.


That is a dumb thing to say.

Its a matter of opinion.....why else would people spend truck loads of money to build a new DP or Mustang if they were not looking to have a major advantage over the other cars in their class of choice for heads up runs and class wins? Just to hold a record or have bragging rights to say Im the baddest? Pretty expensive way to say Im faster than you are if you ask me. Some must have money to just throw away in todays economy or its the advantage they are looking for and want over their competition and are willing to spend anything for it.

[Bill Edgeworth]

What are all you cry babies going to do when guys like Wade and I don't complain about them?
I'm with Wade bring em on!

[danny waters sr]

I'm not crying...We need new cars as well ,but we don't need to run the old cars away. Both sanctions have tried to help by letting you move up or down a class if you want to hide .You know as well as i do there is a lot of last minute tech because of the waiting to see who is running what class .Most of the time most of the racers have it figured out between themselves. I paid the same entry fee as the next guy ,but i came to try to win,and if i can avoid a heads up with my ole slow poke then i will .If the TRUTH be known the majority of the racers will do the same thing unless they have a rivalry going on or a pi$$ing match going on. Oh and along with playing the ladder for a heads up run , or avoiding a heads up ,not just for by runs.I will race and hope i make rounds . If i get beat it's my fault not yours. If it's a heads up and i lose ,i just lose and when money lets me i will try to get my car faster with old technology and not out of the" factory box". Not bashing the new cars , i love them and wish i could afford one, but that is just another dream.It was hard enough to make my 1st dream come true and that was to be able to even have a stocker. Sorry for the long letter. Happy Racing to all !!!!

[Jimi B]

I mentioned this article on facebook the other day...


Sure its under factored... But things that really bother me is the line:

"Modifications to the engine included their high flow CNC 3-valve cylinder heads, high performance intake"

First of all modifications kinda sounds a little "off" for stock eliminator. And most of all. "CNC Heads" and "high performance intake" really doesnt sound Stock Eliminator to me.