Toc rescheduled - Page 2

Myron Piatek · 11-16-2009, 01:31 PM

The Spring Rockingham Nitro Jam was originally scheduled for 2 days - Sat. & Sun. The letter we got says that the TOC will be held on Friday. I guess the ROC will be held then also but I don't believe it was actually mentioned.

THE LEGEND · 11-16-2009, 02:07 PM

They are still looking at Alternative sites and dates for the All-Stars. Which I don't like because it means more travel.
Have it all at the same place I don't care where lets JUST GET IT ON.

Michael I've had some trips like your Rockingham trip. Kinda makes you wonder WHY we continue on.????????????

Chip

Beth Denysenko · 11-16-2009, 02:15 PM

Mike hit the nail on the head. This is the definition of insanity.

SO, we are going to get at least one time run + one hit for qualifying off reaction time and then a complete, more than likely six round race (once you re-insert the div. champs for round two) for seven classes done in one day. Yeah, right. That's pretty pie in the sky dreaming there - and that's providing it doesn't rain, the track isn't too cold, too hot, too sticky, too dewey, no wrecks, no oil downs. If ANY of those things occur, then it just doesn't seem possible. I am typically an eternal optimist. Today, I am wearing my eternal realist hat.

Chip's right, might as well run the All Stars there too, since most of us will have to be there anyway.

PS - looks like Rockingham is already on top of a NHRA Div 1 race.

herbjr · 11-16-2009, 02:38 PM

As a former track operator you can run 7 different classes in a 6 round race in one hour more than one six round race. The cool down is what takes so long in a short field. So you can easily run a 260 car divisional with 2 time runs and a 4 hour rain delay in one day. Piedmont did it this year.

Michael Lyons · 11-16-2009, 03:09 PM

It took basically 3 hours to run one round of time runs on Thursday at Rockingham. we started 2 rounds at 1:30 and finished around 8pm. I was near the front of 2nd rd T/D(last class out) and my time slip said 7:44 pm I believe. Maybe the guys from Piedmont can come down and run the race for them... :P

THE LEGEND · 11-16-2009, 04:01 PM

In div 9 we usually get over 200 cars at a div race. They normally start around noon and are done in around 5 hours with no TT. Add 3 hours for TT and you're looking at 8 hrs.
Start at 9 done well before dark.
Chip

THE LEGEND · 11-16-2009, 04:03 PM

Micheal,
That 3 hr TT included the Sportsnational cars.

tim worner · 11-16-2009, 06:21 PM

I'm going to do my part in helping to speed up the race. I'm not going back!!!!

tim worner · 11-16-2009, 06:25 PM

Just took notice that TOC rescheduled on top of Div 1 opener Atco,N.J.. I would think Bryan won"t be going either.

Michael Lyons · 11-17-2009, 06:42 AM

Yes I know chip, how many cars do you think will be there for Saturdays race. Yes the TOC will get done first but the allstars and springnats will most likely run over until monday again based on there being a similar amount of cars for that race. And thus another 6 days off work to start the year. And better be careful there Chip, you sound like a hypocrite when you say you don't want to travel for the other shootout. lol
Which raises another question, why do they have the larger payout races in NC? If you're from out of state you lose 4% of the prize money before you even get it! Why does NC deserve a piece of the prize money, they extort and prosecute their own, just ask the Binghams. By the time you make two trips to NC, pay NC taxes and then ultimately ones own state and federal taxes at the end of the year, you'd be lucky to net $6000 of the original $10,000!! Am I the only one who sees this? I mean is that why they moved the Moser shootout after only one year? 4% of $22,500 is an unpleasant hit. Especially after you already did a split.

11-16-2009, 01:31 PM	#11
Myron Piatek VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Florida Posts: 1,542 Likes: 34 Liked 138 Times in 51 Posts	Re: Toc rescheduled The Spring Rockingham Nitro Jam was originally scheduled for 2 days - Sat. & Sun. The letter we got says that the TOC will be held on Friday. I guess the ROC will be held then also but I don't believe it was actually mentioned.

11-16-2009, 02:07 PM	#12
THE LEGEND VIP Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Fayetteville, n.c. Posts: 1,411 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Toc rescheduled They are still looking at Alternative sites and dates for the All-Stars. Which I don't like because it means more travel. Have it all at the same place I don't care where lets JUST GET IT ON. Michael I've had some trips like your Rockingham trip. Kinda makes you wonder WHY we continue on.???????????? Chip

11-16-2009, 02:15 PM	#13
Beth Denysenko Live Reporter Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: NW Indiana Posts: 426 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Toc rescheduled Mike hit the nail on the head. This is the definition of insanity. SO, we are going to get at least one time run + one hit for qualifying off reaction time and then a complete, more than likely six round race (once you re-insert the div. champs for round two) for seven classes done in one day. Yeah, right. That's pretty pie in the sky dreaming there - and that's providing it doesn't rain, the track isn't too cold, too hot, too sticky, too dewey, no wrecks, no oil downs. If ANY of those things occur, then it just doesn't seem possible. I am typically an eternal optimist. Today, I am wearing my eternal realist hat. Chip's right, might as well run the All Stars there too, since most of us will have to be there anyway. PS - looks like Rockingham is already on top of a NHRA Div 1 race. __________________ Beth Denysenko P/SA 330 www.moneymakerracing.net Last edited by Beth Denysenko; 11-16-2009 at 02:34 PM. Reason: adding info about date conflicts

11-16-2009, 02:38 PM	#14
herbjr VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Greensboro NC Posts: 1,027 Likes: 1 Liked 83 Times in 32 Posts	Re: Toc rescheduled As a former track operator you can run 7 different classes in a 6 round race in one hour more than one six round race. The cool down is what takes so long in a short field. So you can easily run a 260 car divisional with 2 time runs and a 4 hour rain delay in one day. Piedmont did it this year.

11-16-2009, 03:09 PM	#15
Michael Lyons Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Garden City, MI Posts: 226 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Toc rescheduled It took basically 3 hours to run one round of time runs on Thursday at Rockingham. we started 2 rounds at 1:30 and finished around 8pm. I was near the front of 2nd rd T/D(last class out) and my time slip said 7:44 pm I believe. Maybe the guys from Piedmont can come down and run the race for them... :P

11-16-2009, 04:01 PM	#16
THE LEGEND VIP Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Fayetteville, n.c. Posts: 1,411 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Toc rescheduled In div 9 we usually get over 200 cars at a div race. They normally start around noon and are done in around 5 hours with no TT. Add 3 hours for TT and you're looking at 8 hrs. Start at 9 done well before dark. Chip

11-16-2009, 04:03 PM	#17
THE LEGEND VIP Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Fayetteville, n.c. Posts: 1,411 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Toc rescheduled Micheal, That 3 hr TT included the Sportsnational cars.

11-16-2009, 06:21 PM	#18
tim worner Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: duncannon Posts: 837 Likes: 14 Liked 126 Times in 20 Posts	Re: Toc rescheduled I'm going to do my part in helping to speed up the race. I'm not going back!!!! __________________ Tim Worner SS 1747

11-16-2009, 06:25 PM	#19
tim worner Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: duncannon Posts: 837 Likes: 14 Liked 126 Times in 20 Posts	Re: Toc rescheduled Just took notice that TOC rescheduled on top of Div 1 opener Atco,N.J.. I would think Bryan won"t be going either. __________________ Tim Worner SS 1747

11-17-2009, 06:42 AM	#20
Michael Lyons Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Garden City, MI Posts: 226 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Toc rescheduled Yes I know chip, how many cars do you think will be there for Saturdays race. Yes the TOC will get done first but the allstars and springnats will most likely run over until monday again based on there being a similar amount of cars for that race. And thus another 6 days off work to start the year. And better be careful there Chip, you sound like a hypocrite when you say you don't want to travel for the other shootout. lol Which raises another question, why do they have the larger payout races in NC? If you're from out of state you lose 4% of the prize money before you even get it! Why does NC deserve a piece of the prize money, they extort and prosecute their own, just ask the Binghams. By the time you make two trips to NC, pay NC taxes and then ultimately ones own state and federal taxes at the end of the year, you'd be lucky to net $6000 of the original $10,000!! Am I the only one who sees this? I mean is that why they moved the Moser shootout after only one year? 4% of $22,500 is an unpleasant hit. Especially after you already did a split.