Nitrous and .90 racing - Page 2

Michael Pliska · 09-28-2009, 09:47 AM

This may be closer to happening. Several divisions have now allowed N2O in diesels in the .90 classes. I know D4, D5 & D7 have had diesels race LODRS races with N2O. Here is video of one running this past weekend:

Regards,

dhmoore · 09-28-2009, 12:29 PM

Your all missing the point... A blower or super charger, and a turbo charger can not be changed going down the track. You cannot change the boost or the pullys,

n2o is a chemical. It is also very explosive, do you want some jurk next to you with no brains with this stuff? I have been to the track and seen a intake explode, it hit joe deluca in the head...

If you want to go faster take some weight out OF your car, it takes some work so get off your fat lazy *** like most racers do..

To get more cars at the div. Races, nhra could change the rule on the weight..2800 lbs. Is so stupid. And you know that a heavy car is not as safe as a lite one on. ( i mean mass)

n2o just makes a soso driver look good, cant cut a lite just hit the bottle ...wow

we have no weight rule in the southeast 10.90 outlaw assn so come race with us

dan moore prez.......

Michael Pliska · 09-28-2009, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by dhmoore

To get more cars at the div. Races, nhra could change the rule on the weight..2800 lbs. Is so stupid. And you know that a heavy car is not as safe as a lite one on. ( i mean mass)

I agree with this part (although it probably wouldn't help Derek). My car (like many "old school" S/G cars) is too light to run S/ST while meeting the limitations on added ballast. It would cost a lot less to run S/ST than to update my car enough to be competitive in today's S/G environment.

Villain281H · 09-28-2009, 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dhmoore

Your all missing the point... A blower or super charger, and a turbo charger can not be changed going down the track. You cannot change the boost or the pullys,

n2o is a chemical. It is also very explosive, do you want some jurk next to you with no brains with this stuff? I have been to the track and seen a intake explode, it hit joe deluca in the head...

Ah, of course. Everyone that builds a blower or turbocharged motor can't possibly blow it up (hmmmmm, Top Fuel and Funny Car ring a bell??), but all the nitrous racers will (guessing you based this on watching Fast and the Furious). Last I checked, backfires happen on carburetors without a nitrous system, so does that mean we all have to go to EFI to be safe now? And of course I can change my nitrous settings as I go down the track. I'll just keep the hood open, launch the car and change the jets as I see fit AS I'M RACING!

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Originally Posted by dhmoore

If you want to go faster take some weight out OF your car, it takes some work so get off your fat lazy *** like most racers do..
n2o just makes a soso driver look good, cant cut a lite just hit the bottle ...wow
dan moore prez.......

Beautiful closed mind sir. You've never met me, yet I'm fat, lazy and an *** all at once. Okay, I go glass hood, bumpers and light seats, and why not dump the full 3 inch exhaust for 70 additional pounds on a car already making 425 rwhp. Now I can run 10.90s. But wait, that stuff isn't free! So I'm shelling out $1,000 plus to run the index, now my car isn't streetable. Or instead we come back to the $500-600 nitrous system idea, and I can still enjoy the car both ways? Hmmm tough call....

A little 411, the nitrous is on the car for TNT and fun runs at the moment, and last I checked racing was supposed to be for fun. And another fact, if you cut a crappy light, going faster than your index or dial-in doesn't offset that bad light to get you a win. But thanks for the tip! Maybe I'll get off my butt and try that. Should work great for a so-so driver like me....

Derek Putnam

GRIGGS · 09-29-2009, 06:29 AM

Come on Derek, just because you drive a nova with a 2.2l ricer engine in it, you don't have to be so mean. If you really wanted to go fast, i'll loan you a couple a hundred horsepower to get your sled movin'.
Mike

FlyingMonkey2565 · 09-29-2009, 07:59 AM

OK guys cool your tempers. It's not personal.
The main reason NOS is not permitted is because of the"Unfair Advantage" factor.

Unfair Advantage: for example- you launch and on take off you know you spin badly,you are behind as you approach the finishline. You hit the nitrous which shoots you forward to take the finishline. Giving your competition no fair chance to DRIVE the finishline.

Now, all NOS users will not use it like this, but it's there so that they can if they choose. So remove the NOS and remove the Unfair Advantage factor.

Get it? Now stop calling each other names and behave. We want more 10.90 racers to join us, not think we're a bunch of Monkeys.

Michael Pliska · 09-29-2009, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyingMonkey2565

OK guys cool your tempers. It's not personal.
The main reason NOS is not permitted is because of the"Unfair Advantage" factor.

Unfair Advantage: for example- you launch and on take off you know you spin badly,you are behind as you approach the finishline. You hit the nitrous which shoots you forward to take the finishline. Giving your competition no fair chance to DRIVE the finishline.

Now, all NOS users will not use it like this, but it's there so that they can if they choose. So remove the NOS and remove the Unfair Advantage factor.

Get it? Now stop calling each other names and behave. We want more 10.90 racers to join us, not think we're a bunch of Monkeys.

Ed,
That's the way it was explained to me 20+ years ago, but I used my throttle stop override the exact same way (my stop was just activated by a switch on the shifter). Of course the massive speeds in .90 racing today kinda negates that advantage.

Regards,
Michael Pliska

dhmoore · 09-29-2009, 01:44 PM

Your right i dont know you. And you will never understand the diff. Between the two power adders. And we are a long ways from running ( nitro methane ) you just will not get it.. End of story........

Too explode a engine with a blower or turbo, you need to have a engine failuer, not the fuel..... Nos, like i said is a chemical

look at the flash points of
gas
alcohol
nitro methane
nos

its not the liquid that burns, its the fumes. You dont need compression for nos to fire, i still have an open mind. but you will never tell me that it is fair to race nos in the .90 classes

dhmoore · 09-29-2009, 01:48 PM

momy i dont want to be a monkey, i want to be a (DONKEY) HAHAHAHAH..how am i doin?????

FlyingMonkey2565 · 09-29-2009, 04:06 PM

Yep Michael
That's what we all did back in the "olden days".
But we couldn't take the finishline with 150-250hp burst with any thing but Nitrous.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael Pliska

Ed,
That's the way it was explained to me 20+ years ago, but I used my throttle stop override the exact same way (my stop was just activated by a switch on the shifter). Of course the massive speeds in .90 racing today kinda negates that advantage.

Regards,
Michael Pliska

Yep

09-28-2009, 09:47 AM	#11
Michael Pliska Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Happy Valley, OR Posts: 260 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Nitrous and .90 racing This may be closer to happening. Several divisions have now allowed N2O in diesels in the .90 classes. I know D4, D5 & D7 have had diesels race LODRS races with N2O. Here is video of one running this past weekend: Regards, __________________ Michael Pliska 643 S/G

09-28-2009, 12:29 PM	#12
dhmoore Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 83 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Nitrous and .90 racing Your all missing the point... A blower or super charger, and a turbo charger can not be changed going down the track. You cannot change the boost or the pullys, n2o is a chemical. It is also very explosive, do you want some jurk next to you with no brains with this stuff? I have been to the track and seen a intake explode, it hit joe deluca in the head... If you want to go faster take some weight out OF your car, it takes some work so get off your fat lazy *** like most racers do.. To get more cars at the div. Races, nhra could change the rule on the weight..2800 lbs. Is so stupid. And you know that a heavy car is not as safe as a lite one on. ( i mean mass) n2o just makes a soso driver look good, cant cut a lite just hit the bottle ...wow we have no weight rule in the southeast 10.90 outlaw assn so come race with us dan moore prez.......

09-29-2009, 06:29 AM	#15
GRIGGS Junior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 92 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Nitrous and .90 racing Come on Derek, just because you drive a nova with a 2.2l ricer engine in it, you don't have to be so mean. If you really wanted to go fast, i'll loan you a couple a hundred horsepower to get your sled movin'. Mike

09-29-2009, 07:59 AM	#16
FlyingMonkey2565 Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: florida Posts: 98 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Nitrous and .90 racing OK guys cool your tempers. It's not personal. The main reason NOS is not permitted is because of the"Unfair Advantage" factor. Unfair Advantage: for example- you launch and on take off you know you spin badly,you are behind as you approach the finishline. You hit the nitrous which shoots you forward to take the finishline. Giving your competition no fair chance to DRIVE the finishline. Now, all NOS users will not use it like this, but it's there so that they can if they choose. So remove the NOS and remove the Unfair Advantage factor. Get it? Now stop calling each other names and behave. We want more 10.90 racers to join us, not think we're a bunch of Monkeys. __________________ Ed Wiley SST2565

09-29-2009, 01:44 PM	#18
dhmoore Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 83 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Nitrous and .90 racing Your right i dont know you. And you will never understand the diff. Between the two power adders. And we are a long ways from running ( nitro methane ) you just will not get it.. End of story........ Too explode a engine with a blower or turbo, you need to have a engine failuer, not the fuel..... Nos, like i said is a chemical look at the flash points of gas alcohol nitro methane nos its not the liquid that burns, its the fumes. You dont need compression for nos to fire, i still have an open mind. but you will never tell me that it is fair to race nos in the .90 classes

09-29-2009, 01:48 PM	#19
dhmoore Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 83 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Nitrous and .90 racing momy i dont want to be a monkey, i want to be a (DONKEY) HAHAHAHAH..how am i doin?????