Stick car racing coming back?

[Mike Keener]

Hmmmm...this format plays right into our wheel house. Hell, we won a few races with no two step and left the starting line @ 10,000 rpm with only a line loc so leaving @ 5-6 thousand like these sissy cars do now with todays soft clutches should be a breeze compared to what we used to do, but I'm confused by what I read. In the first sentence it says 1/8th mile race off 6.50 index, and in the next it says heads up off a .500 handicap tree. Which is it? Nobody will give a damn if it's a breakout race....

Mike Keener
Team Checkmate race Cars

[CPOlesen]

I'm in lets go!!

[Harry 6674]

Its still a breakout race. First isn't always the winner. Can you say bracket race, but the sticks are cool.

[Scotty D]

Originally Posted by LNorton

Fans dont want to watch bracket racing. They want to see a heads up style of racing.

the way the rules are written do the fans want to see cars with throttle stops on them to run 6.50. i was thinking maybe different index's to get faster cars involved.

[Jeff Lee]

I suppose anything's possible but I sure wouldn't want to run a manual transmission with a throttle stop! It would play havoc on the clutch settings since they're designed for WOT conditions.
And I don't think that's the intent here. Sounds like the rule maker needs to clarify hhis intent. Sounds like it could be fun, all that shifting and only doing the race to the eighth!

[fredjohnston]

Originally Posted by Mike Keener

Hmmmm...this format plays right into our wheel house. Hell, we won a few races with no two step and left the starting line @ 10,000 rpm with only a line loc so leaving @ 5-6 thousand like these sissy cars do now with todays soft clutches should be a breeze compared to what we used to do, but I'm confused by what I read. In the first sentence it says 1/8th mile race off 6.50 index, and in the next it says heads up off a .500 handicap tree. Which is it? Nobody will give a damn if it's a breakout race....

Mike Keener
Team Checkmate race Cars

So Pro Stock = sissy car.. Got ya.

[CrateCamaro]

Originally Posted by fredjohnston

So Pro Stock = sissy car.. Got ya.

Ill have to agree with Keener. Driving Pro Stock is a walk in the park compared to what Modified Production/Super Stock was like in the 70's. Its two different extremes. Yes a Pro Stock car could be a handfull but just imagine wrestling a 67-9 Camaro down the track with basically a stock style suspention shifting a H pattern shifter at 9000rpm. Compared to a Pro Stock car thats probably pretty comfortable and more easy to drive.
No knocking pro stock here...its my favorite Pro class.

[herbjr]

How did my Dad, Herb McCandless, Ronnie Sox, Don Nicholson, and Bill Jenkins do what they did back in the 70's without a 2 step, high side chip etc, well they were the best paid match racers in that era. They had stock trannys with mods done but used the clutch every gear, with no chips. My dad went 9.01 with a true 4 speed back in 1972 in NHRA Trim but never went in the 8's.

You dont have to go fast to draw a crowd. I have a 7.49 and 8.99 class on Thursday nights at Piedmont, I draw over 800 ppl on the 2nd and 4th Thursday to watch this class run. We pay 300 total purse and its no electronics, stock suspension only. The crowd goes nuts but we play these guys up like they are heros. Hell they are the come race twice a month for 7 months to be the show. We dont charge them but 5.00 to race.

Herb Jr

[mloboda]

Originally Posted by LNorton

Fans dont want to watch bracket racing. They want to see a heads up style of racing.

That's not quite accurate, Lee.
The UMTR stick shift races are all bracket- style races and STILL draw 400-700 spectators at every race.
Fans WILL watch stick shift bracket racing. They WILL NOT watch automatic bracket racing.
We have proved that for 3 years running.

how did those trannys stay together shifting at 10,000 rpm in m/p,were they t-10,s or m-22,s hard to believe