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Old 11-29-2023, 12:09 PM   #11
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Are you saying you'd like to see it changed because your ego would rather see your car staged with 7.90 on the board rather than 8.90? Who is going to be impressed by that or really notice a difference while watching it?

It's an arbitrary number, really. Lowering the number would not make the run any more enjoyable; it would only drive out those on the slow end of the class.

It might make the fastest cars 'better' by not having to be on the stop so low/long, but if so that's their fault for making way more HP than is necessary.
no not my ego, my ego is satisfied by my son's driving prowess and the fact that I built a 6.80 dragster. the indexes should be lower because IMO and others it's ridiculous that the NHRA is still indexing these classes as they did 30+ years ago when a mid 8 second dragster was fast! Today many of the cars competing in S/C can run flat out from 6.70s to 7.30s. That said lowering the indexes will not have 1 more person watching the .90 classes.

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Old 11-30-2023, 07:55 AM   #12
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If memory serves correct you are right. It was a way to help soften the backlash from the Modified Eliminator elimination too. Super Gas was a door car class where some of the Anglias Monzas and Vegas wound up and Super Comp found some of the old Econo dragsters and Altered wound up. Throttle Stops weren’t invented yet and a lot of adding weight and pedal stops were used to hit the number
. Modifiedcars also had Comp Eliminator for some to fall into and Super Stock for some. So when people say bring back Modified Eliminator I get confused. It’s still there just backyard built tunnel rammed small blocks with 5 speeds are no longer backyard built. Take a look at what Comp is today with the Super Modified classes and Altered classes and those would have been a lot of your MP cars today. Sorry. Different rant. My mind wanders.
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Old 11-30-2023, 08:08 AM   #13
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Nothing is going backwards, the 90s are long gone no mind the 70s! We don't do dry hops anymore and there's no bleach in the water box. Typewriters, VHS/VCRs and princess phones are never coming back either.

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Old 11-30-2023, 08:24 AM   #14
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Seems to me this 90 stuff should be on the 90 columns and not super, stock column. Someone who can run two seconds under the index and then wants them lowered, should look at what they are doing. I believe you should start on something that is a challenge, instead of complaining...
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Old 11-30-2023, 08:40 AM   #15
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I ain't complaining, we've done every well in S/C the past 5 years and you don't make the rules here.
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Old 11-30-2023, 10:39 PM   #16
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Seems to me this 90 stuff should be on the 90 columns and not super, stock column. Someone who can run two seconds under the index and then wants them lowered, should look at what they are doing. I believe you should start on something that is a challenge, instead of complaining...
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Old 12-02-2023, 08:40 AM   #17
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the spectators at a National event hate every class, every car except the Nitro Cars! They don't watch any of them. They vacate the stands when anything is on the track but the Nitro cars.
thats when i leave stands
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Old 12-02-2023, 08:43 AM   #18
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this isn't about you/us, we are sportsman/class racers not spectators, that wouldn't be there if not for competing at the event.

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Old 12-02-2023, 10:12 AM   #19
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My “opinion” is that, if I built a 190mph 9.90 car so I can always be the chaser… if you lower the index I’ll still run 190 but at 8.80. Or, I’ll build a motor to run 200@8.90…. And zero has changed. Still a 2 second delay as I ensure I am the fastest and always chase.
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Old 12-02-2023, 11:25 AM   #20
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My opinion is that it's ridiculous that .90 cars today, specially S/C and S/G are still indexed as they were over 3 decades ago and ET slower than some stockers and all the FSS cars.
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