Burnout? - Page 2

Ken Haase · 01-02-2010, 01:11 PM

Tom, and others, do you use a chip to control burnout RPM? Or do you just mat the gas and go for it? I use a 3-step w/ a 6K chip for the burnout and was wondering if there is a better way. I try not to hit the chip.

Also, does a lot of instant wheel speed help keep the car straight on the burnout? My car is sort of heavy and underpowered and tends to wag it's tail and get out of shape sometimes, limiting the duration and effectiveness of the burmout.

Thanks.

skj283 · 01-02-2010, 06:37 PM

my car tends to go sideways if i dont get a good amout of water on both tires or if one tire is sitting in water and one isnt when you start. i zip the motor going through the water so the entire circumfence is covered in water. once i started doing that it helped my car stay straighter. just watch and make sure someone doesnt roll through the water and then another ten feet forward. if you line up in their water tracks they leave it tends to create a funky burnout. generally going sideways is from one tire taking more heat quicker than the other is what i'm getting at.

Tom Goldman · 01-02-2010, 07:08 PM

My right foot is my rev limiter in the water ! ....I rarely look at the tach ,but still keep the revs within 1-200 rpm., just tuned into the sound of the motor I guess. ......... Most of the time when a car turns in the water its because the concrete in the burnout box is so wornout that one tire may be in a ditch and the other on a flat surface. ....It takes a severely crooked rear,or an abnormally high amount of preload to turn a car in the water.........My car is usually straight as an arrow ,except for two tracks Maple Grove and Cecil Co. both left lanes. ........the water box guys usually do a good job of keeping you out of the ruts,but I still occasionally get a little sideways.......When that happens ,I just turn the wheel,stand on it ,and provide a "photo oppertunity"! LOL. .....Tom

SGSST109E · 01-02-2010, 11:14 PM

Have always made a burnout in high gear on a glide. Why put additional wear on the high pack with shift.

C and W Racing · 01-05-2010, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by skj283

my car tends to go sideways if i dont get a good amout of water on both tires or if one tire is sitting in water and one isnt when you start. i zip the motor going through the water so the entire circumfence is covered in water. once i started doing that it helped my car stay straighter. just watch and make sure someone doesnt roll through the water and then another ten feet forward. if you line up in their water tracks they leave it tends to create a funky burnout. generally going sideways is from one tire taking more heat quicker than the other is what i'm getting at.

I see a lot of people do that and that is one practice I don't believe in. I will roll through the water as slow as I can so I dont push water out of the water box and then I will pull completely past where it stops. Thats where having a 2 step comes in handy because you can mat the throttle without over reving the engine and be able to get the wheel speed up. The biggest reason I don't believe in spinning the tires in the water box is because what goes up must come down. As you spin the tires the water coming off of your tires is sprayed all into your tubs or wheel wells. Well its only natural that the water is going to drip back down onto your tires at some point, usually after you have staged and up on the 2 step with the car at a nice steady vibration shaking the water back down. Just my 2 cents worth
Chuck

Bob Verwold · 01-05-2010, 07:57 PM

You guys make it sound as though your driving through a pond.

I just make it short and sweet..........slicks cost to much.

Tom Goldman · 01-05-2010, 11:14 PM

Pond? ....At some tracks is more like a lake!!! .........I agree,I don't flip the tires in the water. ....All it does is throw it up in the tubs and lets it drip down on the slicks. .....Tom

billy leber · 01-06-2010, 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom Goldman

My right foot is my rev limiter in the water ! ....I rarely look at the tach ,but still keep the revs within 1-200 rpm., just tuned into the sound of the motor I guess. ......... Most of the time when a car turns in the water its because the concrete in the burnout box is so wornout that one tire may be in a ditch and the other on a flat surface. ....It takes a severely crooked rear,or an abnormally high amount of preload to turn a car in the water.........My car is usually straight as an arrow ,except for two tracks Maple Grove and Cecil Co. both left lanes. ........the water box guys usually do a good job of keeping you out of the ruts,but I still occasionally get a little sideways.......When that happens ,I just turn the wheel,stand on it ,and provide a "photo oppertunity"! LOL. .....Tom

couldnt agree more, everything tom said

GaryGoFast · 01-06-2010, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by billy leber

couldnt agree more, everything tom said

I also agree with Tom, 6500 in burnout with right foot as rev limiter, not that tough to do. Never spin the tires in the water, just roll thru slowly to just past the water and let'r rip. Got scolded very severely for turning the tire in water many years ago when I attended "The Shoes" school, he could be very persuasive. 60's are very consistent.

skj283 · 01-06-2010, 02:24 PM

i understand ur view of it throwing water up into the fenderwells. just like the reason you dont go through the water on a street tire. my track seems to think water is gold or something and often the water isnt but about a foot or two across. and if i just roll through it and stop there is about a 50 percent chance i will be sitting on dry tire. however to each his own and whatever works to get a consistent 60' foot is what were all after in the end. how you get it is entirely up to you.

01-02-2010, 01:11 PM	#11
Ken Haase Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 233 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Burnout? Tom, and others, do you use a chip to control burnout RPM? Or do you just mat the gas and go for it? I use a 3-step w/ a 6K chip for the burnout and was wondering if there is a better way. I try not to hit the chip. Also, does a lot of instant wheel speed help keep the car straight on the burnout? My car is sort of heavy and underpowered and tends to wag it's tail and get out of shape sometimes, limiting the duration and effectiveness of the burmout. Thanks.

01-02-2010, 06:37 PM	#12
skj283 Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 11 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Burnout? my car tends to go sideways if i dont get a good amout of water on both tires or if one tire is sitting in water and one isnt when you start. i zip the motor going through the water so the entire circumfence is covered in water. once i started doing that it helped my car stay straighter. just watch and make sure someone doesnt roll through the water and then another ten feet forward. if you line up in their water tracks they leave it tends to create a funky burnout. generally going sideways is from one tire taking more heat quicker than the other is what i'm getting at.

01-02-2010, 07:08 PM	#13
Tom Goldman VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Allentown,PA Posts: 2,438 Likes: 786 Liked 703 Times in 206 Posts	Re: Burnout? My right foot is my rev limiter in the water ! ....I rarely look at the tach ,but still keep the revs within 1-200 rpm., just tuned into the sound of the motor I guess. ......... Most of the time when a car turns in the water its because the concrete in the burnout box is so wornout that one tire may be in a ditch and the other on a flat surface. ....It takes a severely crooked rear,or an abnormally high amount of preload to turn a car in the water.........My car is usually straight as an arrow ,except for two tracks Maple Grove and Cecil Co. both left lanes. ........the water box guys usually do a good job of keeping you out of the ruts,but I still occasionally get a little sideways.......When that happens ,I just turn the wheel,stand on it ,and provide a "photo oppertunity"! LOL. .....Tom __________________ Tom Goldman 1500 SG , 1506 STK

01-02-2010, 11:14 PM	#14
SGSST109E Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: NJ Posts: 347 Likes: 54 Liked 126 Times in 60 Posts	Re: Burnout? Have always made a burnout in high gear on a glide. Why put additional wear on the high pack with shift.

01-05-2010, 07:57 PM	#16
Bob Verwold Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Fayetteville Ohio Posts: 656 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Burnout? You guys make it sound as though your driving through a pond. I just make it short and sweet..........slicks cost to much.

01-05-2010, 11:14 PM	#17
Tom Goldman VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Allentown,PA Posts: 2,438 Likes: 786 Liked 703 Times in 206 Posts	Re: Burnout? Pond? ....At some tracks is more like a lake!!! .........I agree,I don't flip the tires in the water. ....All it does is throw it up in the tubs and lets it drip down on the slicks. .....Tom __________________ Tom Goldman 1500 SG , 1506 STK

01-06-2010, 02:24 PM	#20
skj283 Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 11 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Burnout? i understand ur view of it throwing water up into the fenderwells. just like the reason you dont go through the water on a street tire. my track seems to think water is gold or something and often the water isnt but about a foot or two across. and if i just roll through it and stop there is about a 50 percent chance i will be sitting on dry tire. however to each his own and whatever works to get a consistent 60' foot is what were all after in the end. how you get it is entirely up to you.