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[BRETV]

Originally Posted by GUMP

The Cobra Jet was originally a "paper car" assembled by Tasca Ford and presented to Ford. It's whole purpose was to give Ford a competitive combination in the very popular drag racing classes of that time. It's low HP rating was not accidental.

Even though you don't seem to like the Supra, it is not a "paper car". It runs the production motor. Everything else is what the current rule book allows.

Yeah, they even had Canadian heads on the first 50 "135" cars that had bigger ports than the standard CJ heads that Ford and NHRA approved. My uncle had 5 sets and cherished them. LOL




Bret Velde
2003 I/SA
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[Jim Caughlin]

Originally Posted by JP1738

Hey GUMP, genuine question:

If a fellow Supra enthusiast wanted to build another Supra to run in stock eliminator, Could he do the front suspension strut bolt in stuff but leave the IRS and stock rear end in it? Or would that guy also have to put a 9 inch in it to be stock legal? I think it makes sense from your side of the equation to put a 9 inch in it and copy the 4 link from the COPOs since that's what you are familiar with, it works, and it's already legal. But if a guy just wanted to do minor fab work with the cage and bolt in front suspension, is there a path for running the car with the OEM transmission and rear end? I feel like just because the rule book says you can put a 9 inch in the car if it was built after 2008, you shouldn't be forced to if you don't want to.

Let's not forget that a Corvette can swap out to a solid rear axle which is obviously a long way from the way they came from the factory, no one seems to be concerned about that deviating from original. NHRA approved that a long time ago, how is this any different? On that same subject, a Corvette legally be run with the original IRS if they so choose but I doubt anyone would.

[Frank B.]

But years ago Corvette had to run IRS in stock but if same car went to bracket race and ran quicker than 10.99 was not legal.

[Rory McNeil]

Originally Posted by Jim Caughlin

Let's not forget that a Corvette can swap out to a solid rear axle which is obviously a long way from the way they came from the factory, no one seems to be concerned about that deviating from original. NHRA approved that a long time ago, how is this any different? On that same subject, a Corvette legally be run with the original IRS if they so choose but I doubt anyone would.

Jim, I think you forgot to mention that the Corvette can be swapped out to a GENERAL MOTORS solid rear axle, but not a Ford, Mopar, Toyota, or any other manufacturers solid rear end. That was done more for safety than anything else, as the half shafts of the IRS were key to help keep the wheels positioned properly, as the older Corvette IRS system did not have upper control arms. So, if the axle or an axle U Joint was to break, the wheel was free to flop around, and likely cause a crash.

[Crisco]

Gump, I hope this new car hauls A $ $... you aren't going to please the masses.

Rock on..

[Tom Broome]

Originally Posted by GUMP

The Cobra Jet was originally a "paper car" assembled by Tasca Ford and presented to Ford. It's whole purpose was to give Ford a competitive combination in the very popular drag racing classes of that time. It's low HP rating was not accidental.

Even though you don't seem to like the Supra, it is not a "paper car". It runs the production motor. Everything else is what the current rule book allows.

Just to add a somewhat minor point to your version of "the story".....
Those first cars may have been conceived by Tasca Ford, but they were actually "assembled at Holman-Moody/Stroppe in California. They were then passed on to specific racers who were deemed to be the bast options for a successful debut. The actual production cars came at a later date.
They showed up at the AHRA Winternationals where they were allowed to race in Stock Eliminator.
But when they arrived in Pomona, NHRA deemed the potential production numbers were too low, and placed them in Super Stock....Kinda' like those pesky Hemi cars.
...But we should never allow the facts to get in the way of a good story...Should we???

[Tom Broome]

Originally Posted by Rory McNeil

Yes, very familiar. I have owned and raced 5 several factory 428 Cobra Jet Mustangs and Fairlane Cobras, of which over 20,000 428 Cobra Jet powered cars were produced, over 3 years , and anybody of the street could walk into any Ford or Mercury dealership, and order one. And by the way, the 428 Cobra Jet engine has had it`s Factory Horsepower "factored" upwards, probably by more than virtually any other REAL (non fabricated "paper" combination). Is THAT the 428 Cobra Jet that you are referring to?
Of course, Ford was not the "Official Car of the NHRA", so it wasn`t afforded some of the liberties that some of the later "official" cars have, like being allowed to use engines, and other components that were not available in certain years of such vehicles,

What he's referring to are not the production Cobra Jet cars, but the factory sponsored and supplied cars that ran Super Stock..Cough, cough...at the 1968 Winternationals.

[GUMP]

Thanks for adding to the story of how the PRODUCTION Cobra Jet came to market.

[ken robinson]

Not being a Toyota guy what older Toyota cars or trucks (like the C10 that was at Indy ) would make a good stocker if they got put in the guide ?