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Old 09-25-2012, 10:24 AM   #111
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Mickey same rules apply if the car is low enough to trip the beams while in the throttle and if its very close a little bump in the track could easily make it trip. Also if you want to make people talk like on here all you have to do is dip the nose and you can cause mass hysteria on class racer bc people really believe a firebird/camaro C car went 132mph at that et without tripping nose or spraying nos. Also, while this "shot heard around the world" took place a 396 outran a pretty good LS1 in Dallas. So, for all of you that think its so easy to make an LS1 go -1.20, I invite you to try because I only know a couple that USED to be able to go that fast!
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Old 09-25-2012, 10:28 AM   #112
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Mickey same rules apply if the car is low enough to trip the beams while in the throttle and if its very close a little bump in the track could easily make it trip. Also if you want to make people talk like on here all you have to do is dip the nose and you can cause mass hysteria on class racer bc people really believe a firebird/camaro C car went 132mph at that et without tripping nose or spraying nos
They must have been tangled up and hanging low to trip those beams
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Old 09-25-2012, 10:40 AM   #113
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Mickey same rules apply if the car is low enough to trip the beams while in the throttle and if its very close a little bump in the track could easily make it trip. Also if you want to make people talk like on here all you have to do is dip the nose and you can cause mass hysteria on class racer bc people really believe a firebird/camaro C car went 132mph at that et without tripping nose or spraying nos. Also, while this "shot heard around the world" took place a 396 outran a pretty good LS1 in Dallas. So, for all of you that think its so easy to make an LS1 go -1.20, I invite you to try because I only know a couple that USED to be able to go that fast!
Yeah 94 under was a good pass but 1.20 under was crazy 2 1/2 tenths difference DWA latino went 90 under emmons went 94 under far cry from 1.20

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Old 09-25-2012, 11:28 AM   #114
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The HP has been posted. I looked at it and now realized that the Ram Air LS1 Firebird Formulas are now a natural CC/SA car. They cannot get to B/SA without being a Trans Am and the different deck lid.

Edited to add: The flat hood Formula is a natural B.

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Old 09-25-2012, 11:29 AM   #115
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Horsepower adjustments following the Jegs SportNationals
As the result of runs under the Automatic Horsepower Factoring System (AHFS) 1.20-second under policy at the Jegs SportNationals, the following change has been made.

The horsepower rating for 1999-2002 GM Camaro/Firebird, entries with the 346 cubic inch engine and a factory rating of 320-325 currently rated at 369 has been increased by twelve horsepower, to 381 horsepower; for Stock Eliminator

NHRA's 2012 Automatic Horsepower Factoring System outlines that any run of 1.20-second or more under the index will receive an immediate index decrease or horsepower increase. These changes are effective Sep. 24, 2012.



Is that basically the same engine as what is in a 2004 GTO in E/SA rated at 340?
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Old 09-25-2012, 11:31 AM   #116
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Is that basically the same engine as what is in a 2004 GTO in E/SA rated at 340?
It's exactly the same as the engine in the GTO (and Corvette) rated at 340.
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Old 09-25-2012, 11:53 AM   #117
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Countrypuppy,
Your argument does not hold water. If hitting the breaks gives you more mph then tell me the trick to run almost -1.00 and killing 20mph, do you drop the laundry and let the shoot do the work???



Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT-----ET---Speed-----Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT----ET---Speed
3578 Chris Mattingly 1 Joe Santangelo
C2 ****WINNER**** 0.035 10.304 128.66 0.002 10.541 124.65
C/SA Index: 11.40 (+/-): -1.096 C/SA Index: 11.40 (+/-): -0.859
Prior rounds:
C1 (P Boster ) 0.041 10.482 115.35 (D J Raiser ) 0.033 10.598 123.69
Qualified: #21 10.513 NS #99 No Time Car#-


Driver(Opp'nt)-RT-----ET---Speed-----Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT----ET---Speed
3578 Chris Mattingly Bye
C3 ****WINNER**** 0.052 10.433 111.81
C/SA Index: 11.40 (+/-): -0.967
Prior rounds:
C2 (J Santangelo) 0.035 10.304 128.66
C1 (P Boster ) 0.041 10.482 115.35
Qualified: #21 10.513 NS Bye
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Old 09-25-2012, 12:05 PM   #118
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Your argument does not hold water. If hitting the breaks gives you more mph then tell me the trick to run almost -1.00 and killing 20mph, do you drop the laundry and let the shoot do the work???
If you hit the brakes right at the finish line, the nose will drop and break the beam, shortening the time between the mph cone and the finish line. If you do it right at the end, you won't be on the brakes long enough to kill more than a thousandth or two and the overhang more than makes up for it.
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Andrew I understand what you guys are talking about but his runs look like this
10:253@132.06 -1.147
10:304@128.66 -1.096
10.433@111.81 -0.967 on this pass he killed 20mph and still runs basically -1. under I think an extra 100# will be ok.

And this wasn't even the car that ran the -1.20 under.
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Old 09-25-2012, 01:07 PM   #120
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Andrew I understand what you guys are talking about but his runs look like this
10:253@132.06 -1.147
10:304@128.66 -1.096
10.433@111.81 -0.967 on this pass he killed 20mph and still runs basically -1. under I think an extra 100# will be ok.

And this wasn't even the car that ran the -1.20 under.
On the 10:25 run he may have hit the brake at the last second and tripped it with the nose which would explain the quicker et and higher mph. On the 10:30 run he may have lost some in 60' or earlier in the run and ran it out the back door. On the 10:43 run he probably just shut it off before the firts mph clock. Just a thought. By the way, nice job on your Wally win Saturday night "Cooter".
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