ATTN Sportsman Council Members and Racers - Page 11

Robert Pare Racing · 06-02-2008, 08:00 PM

not to hijack this thread, but I gotta say, Ed O., you are one handsome fella. Congrats again.

laura Parker · 06-02-2008, 10:08 PM

Robert Ed must have bought all that cheating ****. Were did you hide that Matty duds box Ed? Or was it that wheel counter? Comon Ed fes up. We all know you know nobody could win without all that stuff. You probably went out and bought a set of those 8 thousand dollar all acided up heads with your winnings too. Alright Ed I am just busting your ***. Congrats Barry

Toby Lang · 06-03-2008, 04:16 AM

If this has to done, why can't we just raise the triggers instead of lowering the indexes?

Instead of the triggers being at 1.15 and 1.40 under, make them 1.35 and 1.50 under. This accomplishes the same thing, but leaves the indexes alone.

-Toby

Ron Ortiz · 06-03-2008, 08:34 AM

Toby Lang,

You hit it on the head, It is so simple. But.....as Mr. Boudreau said in a different perspective, "they just d'ont understand the math and logic! It's sad!"

Ron Ortiz
U/SA amazing

Paul Hellenberg · 06-03-2008, 09:01 AM

Tobby Lang

AMEN

Rob Petrie E395 · 06-03-2008, 10:23 AM

Going back to the original post here. Does anybody know if the SRAC acutually did vote to change the triggers. PLEASE do not blast me for asking. I know I am not on any qualifing sheets and I am not currently racing stock but as some of you that I have spoken to know I am very serious about putting somthing togeter for late this year or next spring at the latest so this does affect me.

Bruce Noland · 06-03-2008, 10:25 AM

Jim,
Thanks for the encouragement.

Too many people are focused on the penalty phase of the ahfs. These folks should lobby their SRAC rep to change the HP reduction potential of the ahfs. It should be easier to get relief for dead end combinations.

55 Chevy · 06-03-2008, 11:28 AM

Yes, dropping the trigger like Toby suggested would be a good way to go. Also Bruce's suggestion of HP reduction has potential & should be looked at also.
Dropping all the indexes is not the solution to this problem.

I have lgwaldo@aol.com as the division 6 rep but must this must be incorrect as it is inoperative.
Does anyone know the correct e-mail address?

Allan

Bruce Noland · 06-03-2008, 12:18 PM

Allan,
nhra should drop the indexes or increase triggers while being a little more liberal with allowing HP decreases. Accepting all the HP improvements and not making the necessary changes to the way the HP is adjusted is the biggest problem.

Think about it - they offer the racers many carrots by making changes that will increase HP and then they zap with us 20,000 volts when you try to make use of the changes. Kinda reminds me of Bill Murray in Ghost Busters.

The handful of guys who are against the reductions are digging their heels in and totally dismissing these HP improvements as inconsequential. Probably because they have never attempted to implement them or the changes were not enough to make them a class contender. Who knows? Something has to happen or nhra will start losing racers.

55 Chevy · 06-03-2008, 01:01 PM

Bruce

In my case next year they are going to allow me to run a four speed. This would probably pick my car up two tenth's anyway but '55 chevs never came with one so I do not believe they should be allowed & wouldn't be using one. They also never came with a Dana either but the original ten bolt is way to weak so to me that is OK.

Yes, something has to be done. Properly factoring all the different combinations is a daunting task & with not all cars running to their potential kind of impossible actually.

Allan

06-02-2008, 08:00 PM	#101
Robert Pare Racing Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Mother Earth Posts: 265 Likes: 0 Liked 2 Times in 1 Post	Re: ATTN Sportsman Council Members and Racers not to hijack this thread, but I gotta say, Ed O., you are one handsome fella. Congrats again. __________________ Rapare-Racing.com

06-02-2008, 10:08 PM	#102
laura Parker Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 14 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: ATTN Sportsman Council Members and Racers Robert Ed must have bought all that cheating **. Were did you hide that Matty duds box Ed? Or was it that wheel counter? Comon Ed fes up. We all know you know nobody could win without all that stuff. You probably went out and bought a set of those 8 thousand dollar all acided up heads with your winnings too. Alright Ed I am just busting your *. Congrats Barry

06-03-2008, 04:16 AM	#103
Toby Lang VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 2,133 Likes: 2 Liked 2 Times in 1 Post	Re: ATTN Sportsman Council Members and Racers If this has to done, why can't we just raise the triggers instead of lowering the indexes? Instead of the triggers being at 1.15 and 1.40 under, make them 1.35 and 1.50 under. This accomplishes the same thing, but leaves the indexes alone. -Toby

06-03-2008, 08:34 AM	#104
Ron Ortiz Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Englewood, Florida Posts: 989 Likes: 35 Liked 317 Times in 103 Posts	Re: ATTN Sportsman Council Members and Racers Toby Lang, You hit it on the head, It is so simple. But.....as Mr. Boudreau said in a different perspective, "they just d'ont understand the math and logic! It's sad!" Ron Ortiz U/SA amazing __________________ Ron Ortiz 2102 STK

06-03-2008, 09:01 AM	#105
Paul Hellenberg Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: 41035 Posts: 243 Likes: 3 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: ATTN Sportsman Council Members and Racers Tobby Lang AMEN __________________ Paul Hellenberg 3881 SS and STK paul@hellenberg.us

06-03-2008, 10:23 AM	#106
Rob Petrie E395 VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Woodlawn IL Posts: 1,092 Likes: 162 Liked 216 Times in 77 Posts	Re: ATTN Sportsman Council Members and Racers Going back to the original post here. Does anybody know if the SRAC acutually did vote to change the triggers. PLEASE do not blast me for asking. I know I am not on any qualifing sheets and I am not currently racing stock but as some of you that I have spoken to know I am very serious about putting somthing togeter for late this year or next spring at the latest so this does affect me.

06-03-2008, 10:25 AM	#107
Bruce Noland VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,855 Likes: 83 Liked 444 Times in 145 Posts	Re: ATTN Sportsman Council Members and Racers Jim, Thanks for the encouragement. Too many people are focused on the penalty phase of the ahfs. These folks should lobby their SRAC rep to change the HP reduction potential of the ahfs. It should be easier to get relief for dead end combinations. __________________ Bruce Noland 1788 STK

06-03-2008, 11:28 AM	#108
55 Chevy Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Calgary,Alberta area Posts: 229 Likes: 23 Liked 20 Times in 15 Posts	Re: ATTN Sportsman Council Members and Racers Yes, dropping the trigger like Toby suggested would be a good way to go. Also Bruce's suggestion of HP reduction has potential & should be looked at also. Dropping all the indexes is not the solution to this problem. I have lgwaldo@aol.com as the division 6 rep but must this must be incorrect as it is inoperative. Does anyone know the correct e-mail address? Allan

06-03-2008, 12:18 PM	#109
Bruce Noland VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,855 Likes: 83 Liked 444 Times in 145 Posts	Re: ATTN Sportsman Council Members and Racers Allan, nhra should drop the indexes or increase triggers while being a little more liberal with allowing HP decreases. Accepting all the HP improvements and not making the necessary changes to the way the HP is adjusted is the biggest problem. Think about it - they offer the racers many carrots by making changes that will increase HP and then they zap with us 20,000 volts when you try to make use of the changes. Kinda reminds me of Bill Murray in Ghost Busters. The handful of guys who are against the reductions are digging their heels in and totally dismissing these HP improvements as inconsequential. Probably because they have never attempted to implement them or the changes were not enough to make them a class contender. Who knows? Something has to happen or nhra will start losing racers. __________________ Bruce Noland 1788 STK Last edited by Bruce Noland; 06-03-2008 at 06:38 PM.

06-03-2008, 01:01 PM	#110
55 Chevy Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Calgary,Alberta area Posts: 229 Likes: 23 Liked 20 Times in 15 Posts	Re: ATTN Sportsman Council Members and Racers Bruce In my case next year they are going to allow me to run a four speed. This would probably pick my car up two tenth's anyway but '55 chevs never came with one so I do not believe they should be allowed & wouldn't be using one. They also never came with a Dana either but the original ten bolt is way to weak so to me that is OK. Yes, something has to be done. Properly factoring all the different combinations is a daunting task & with not all cars running to their potential kind of impossible actually. Allan