Carolina Class Racers Association - Page 10

LNorton · 01-16-2009, 09:16 PM

Yup, that's the trophy!

Tracy Robbins · 01-16-2009, 10:32 PM

All of these ideas have merit. From a points keeping standpoint we have been using the Roxboro points system where you get 3 entry points and 1 point for each round won. That way if there is a large field you get more points if you win. If you win when there is a small field you don't get the same number of points as a larger field would. Whatever we do we need to keep it simple as most people involved with this will be on the track and not in the tower.
I really like the trophy idea and feel like $5 off the top of the entry to go towards the trophy cost would be the easiest way to raise enough money to pay for them. Does anyone have any idea what they cost?
A gold card is an easy way to reward the champion, it would just reduce the payout by $75 but that's really not an issue if we are drawing in 25-30 cars per event.
I'm not sure about seperating stock and super stock, I guess we need to discuss this w/ track operators to see how much of an inconvenience it would be. The approach we have taken at Roxboro is that we don't want to be a burden on the track, we are there to help them make money not cost them money and time. There are a lot of good ideas regarding pairing on a ladder, another option would be to draw numbers in the lanes prior to the last time run for your qualifying spot.
I'm not sure if we can weigh cars for heads up runs because very few tracks have permanent scales and we don't have temporary ones to use. That may be something that could happen either down the road if this grew to the point where we could buy scales or if someone donated them. There are a few tech people in the area that we could possibly hire but there again all of this costs money.

Michael Beard · 01-17-2009, 02:54 PM

I can find out on the trophies. I've got the contact for the place in PA that makes them, as I've done some artwork for the little placards that go on them. Beaver Springs Dragway got sponsors for each class so that they got their names on the Iron Tree trophies as well as the jackets at the end of the year. That might be a 'relatively' easy sponsorship to sell, just to get someone to cover those costs.

Re: Points... these aren't hard to tabulate. Just keep 'em in an Excel spreadsheet, which you can import into the website easily. I did the points for Quaker City Raceway when I worked for them. Wednesday nights were fun times...! It was street-legal bracket racing night. We'd have about 120 cars running, 6 classes. I announced, did the pairings for Top Street, maintained the 100 MPH Club listings, even took pictures of the final rounds from the tower while I was announcing. After the race, took winner's circle pictures, went to the track office, updated the points, 100 MPH Club, and posted race results w/ pics within a half hour of the race being over!

Any way you decide to do the pairings is fine with me. I do prefer *some* kind of a ladder, just so you don't have one lane stacking up because nobody wants to run so-and-so. I guess it doesn't matter to me if you separate S and SS or not... kind of fun to run some people you don't normally get a chance to.

sterling simmons jr · 01-18-2009, 07:13 PM

Don't forget the Virginia guys who would likely attend. Fayetteville would be good for us.
Simmons Racing

joe huestis · 01-18-2009, 09:51 PM

Is there any meeting this coming weekend about this ?
Joe Huestis
Annie's Song L/SA 9724

01-19-2009, 08:39 AM

Herb Jr....Where are you? Do we have a meeting this weekend? Where? What time?

01-22-2009, 02:22 PM

Anyone heard anything?

X-TECH MAN · 01-22-2009, 02:58 PM

Ive been watching this thread and it dosent look good. I would think some word would be out since its already Thursday????

Brandon Peterson · 01-22-2009, 03:33 PM

Tracy i noticed Roxboro only had 2 races on schedule if this ccra doesn't pull through are we gonna try and talk with cliff to get a few more combos on schedule for 09 at the boro

herbjr · 01-22-2009, 05:46 PM

Ok guys this Saturday at the Cutting Board Exit 143, Burlington NC. Beside Ramada Inn. The lunch there is between 8 and 15.00 and there is no charge for the room. I hope we have a good turnout to be able to vote on things the way you guys want an Association to be. There are a few things we need to see what the racers want. I look forward to seeing you all there.

Also I know I havent been online much. Well when the track sold that meant I didnt have a job. Keep in mind this was 3 weeks after buying a Super Stock Modified car turnkey and a trailer. I have been very busy and now have things under control. Lets have fun racing this year.

Herb Jr

01-16-2009, 09:16 PM	#91
LNorton Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: RacerTees.com Posts: 505 Likes: 0 Liked 4 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Carolina Class Racers Association Yup, that's the trophy! __________________ Lee Norton - N229 STK IHRA H/FIA - NHRA O/SA RacerTees.com

01-16-2009, 10:32 PM	#92
Tracy Robbins Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Youngsville, NC Posts: 846 Likes: 3 Liked 25 Times in 11 Posts	Re: Carolina Class Racers Association All of these ideas have merit. From a points keeping standpoint we have been using the Roxboro points system where you get 3 entry points and 1 point for each round won. That way if there is a large field you get more points if you win. If you win when there is a small field you don't get the same number of points as a larger field would. Whatever we do we need to keep it simple as most people involved with this will be on the track and not in the tower. I really like the trophy idea and feel like $5 off the top of the entry to go towards the trophy cost would be the easiest way to raise enough money to pay for them. Does anyone have any idea what they cost? A gold card is an easy way to reward the champion, it would just reduce the payout by $75 but that's really not an issue if we are drawing in 25-30 cars per event. I'm not sure about seperating stock and super stock, I guess we need to discuss this w/ track operators to see how much of an inconvenience it would be. The approach we have taken at Roxboro is that we don't want to be a burden on the track, we are there to help them make money not cost them money and time. There are a lot of good ideas regarding pairing on a ladder, another option would be to draw numbers in the lanes prior to the last time run for your qualifying spot. I'm not sure if we can weigh cars for heads up runs because very few tracks have permanent scales and we don't have temporary ones to use. That may be something that could happen either down the road if this grew to the point where we could buy scales or if someone donated them. There are a few tech people in the area that we could possibly hire but there again all of this costs money. __________________ Tracy Robbins SS 9766

01-17-2009, 02:54 PM	#93
Michael Beard VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 4,060 Likes: 0 Liked 13 Times in 9 Posts	Re: Carolina Class Racers Association I can find out on the trophies. I've got the contact for the place in PA that makes them, as I've done some artwork for the little placards that go on them. Beaver Springs Dragway got sponsors for each class so that they got their names on the Iron Tree trophies as well as the jackets at the end of the year. That might be a 'relatively' easy sponsorship to sell, just to get someone to cover those costs. Re: Points... these aren't hard to tabulate. Just keep 'em in an Excel spreadsheet, which you can import into the website easily. I did the points for Quaker City Raceway when I worked for them. Wednesday nights were fun times...! It was street-legal bracket racing night. We'd have about 120 cars running, 6 classes. I announced, did the pairings for Top Street, maintained the 100 MPH Club listings, even took pictures of the final rounds from the tower while I was announcing. After the race, took winner's circle pictures, went to the track office, updated the points, 100 MPH Club, and posted race results w/ pics within a half hour of the race being over! Any way you decide to do the pairings is fine with me. I do prefer some kind of a ladder, just so you don't have one lane stacking up because nobody wants to run so-and-so. I guess it doesn't matter to me if you separate S and SS or not... kind of fun to run some people you don't normally get a chance to. __________________ Michael Beard - NHRA/IHRA 3216 S/SS

01-18-2009, 07:13 PM	#94
sterling simmons jr Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Chesterfield,Va. Posts: 380 Likes: 255 Liked 138 Times in 28 Posts	Re: Carolina Class Racers Association Don't forget the Virginia guys who would likely attend. Fayetteville would be good for us. Simmons Racing __________________ Sterling Simmons jr 1131 STK

01-18-2009, 09:51 PM	#95
joe huestis Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Youngsville, N.C. Posts: 623 Likes: 281 Liked 409 Times in 113 Posts	Re: Carolina Class Racers Association Is there any meeting this coming weekend about this ? Joe Huestis Annie's Song L/SA 9724

01-19-2009, 08:39 AM	#96
Tilley2007 Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Carolina Class Racers Association Herb Jr....Where are you? Do we have a meeting this weekend? Where? What time?

01-22-2009, 02:22 PM	#97
Tilley2007 Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Carolina Class Racers Association Anyone heard anything?

01-22-2009, 02:58 PM	#98
X-TECH MAN Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Lake Placid, Florida Posts: 3,203 Likes: 1,047 Liked 235 Times in 110 Posts	Re: Carolina Class Racers Association Ive been watching this thread and it dosent look good. I would think some word would be out since its already Thursday????

01-22-2009, 03:33 PM	#99
Brandon Peterson Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: North Carolina Posts: 436 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Carolina Class Racers Association Tracy i noticed Roxboro only had 2 races on schedule if this ccra doesn't pull through are we gonna try and talk with cliff to get a few more combos on schedule for 09 at the boro

01-22-2009, 05:46 PM	#100
herbjr VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Greensboro NC Posts: 1,027 Likes: 1 Liked 83 Times in 32 Posts	Re: Carolina Class Racers Association Ok guys this Saturday at the Cutting Board Exit 143, Burlington NC. Beside Ramada Inn. The lunch there is between 8 and 15.00 and there is no charge for the room. I hope we have a good turnout to be able to vote on things the way you guys want an Association to be. There are a few things we need to see what the racers want. I look forward to seeing you all there. Also I know I havent been online much. Well when the track sold that meant I didnt have a job. Keep in mind this was 3 weeks after buying a Super Stock Modified car turnkey and a trailer. I have been very busy and now have things under control. Lets have fun racing this year. Herb Jr