Do you think the divisional doubles are a good idea?

[BKSG1198]

I think no matter what you're going to not make everyone happy; we have to face it the tracks that want to host a divisional event are becoming few and far between and they have to make money also, so big car counts like the 600+ at Norwalk last weekend help and would have been more if VMP wasn't going on. You also have to look at the fact of we basically need 7 / 8 grade points to enter a national event, and I can see the quotas probably going down even more in the near future, it's all about cost factors, I can see each NE going to 3 days (except Indy) because less days to pay employees and these tracks somewhat taking a stand to say we aren't making money on these events. When I sat down and did my 2025 schedule I said no Leb Valley or Epping but double Norwalk, Numidia, VMP and that gets me 6 GP and add Cecil and MG to the mix to get me 8 at only 5 weekends of traveling compared to 8 weekends of traveling. Yes, the Wed / Thursday & Fri/Sat kind of stink for the working man but if they get weather like we had in Norwalk we have Sunday to fall back on to complete the event. I know in D1 we are looking at Thursday to Sunday and at the rate we're going in the NE with weather, no doubt I see one of those events going to Monday unfortunately but I love the doubles personally.

[Jack McCarthy]

Due to insane quota numbers we are being held hostage to attend divisionals, it makes no difference if your division has singles doubles or triples you must attend. Just another way to push the low buck entry level racer into local tire classes. Yea the rich guys can take as many days away from home as they wish

I don?t are I?m just about done with the circus 😎

[Bobby Fazio]

There are pros and cons and variables. All good discussion material for Tuesday. See you there.

[MR DERBY CITY]

Originally Posted by Jack McCarthy

I do not care, I am just about done with the circus ��

……WHOA , Hold on now , you are just a few weeks into your Superstock build ….

[KennyAnderson]

Doubles... yess please! Especially as mentioned when the Natty is the next weekend. We were just at VMP and will return for the Divisional races in the fall. Would love to hit them both back to back.

SGMP with Bristol the next weekend worked out pretty well and we always love 10 days in Gainesville every March. Especially with the DRAW golf tourney in between.

[Jeff Dona SS3269]

The idea of a double years ago looked good on paper especially when getting your out of Div races after going through several Topeka,Dallas , Columbus , St Louis, Atlanta and Norwalk one thing stands out at all of them it?s nearly impossible to run a 3 day race in two days in Divisions that draw large car counts without sacrificing quantity for quality . Here in d3 we need all three days of a normal points race to finish and that?s if all goes well. In the mid west from April to September it?s hard to go anywhere for 4 days and not get rain during one of them. I see both sides of starting Wednesday vs Sunday it was always hard to call the dealership and tell them your not going to be there Monday when you already took off Thur Fri on the other side not everyone is their own boss and may only have 2 weeks vacation a year and being of 3 days for 2 races doesn?t work. The doubles face a lot of challenges the biggest is time management. I was at Bristol the list of classes they had there was insane. TF FC PS PSM Mountain Motor PS Pro Mod FSS Top Sportsman and Top Dragster one session of those classes burn at least 4.5 hours . We have the same problem at the Div level both alcohol classes comp TD. TG that?s a 3 hour session in d3 somehow nhra has to figure out how to speed these classes up and shorten their session time up geez now profession fuel drivers can?t get of the track with a 4 wheels pushing them off it?s terrible for the fans and worse for the sportsman racers. Like them or not they work nor NHRA so they are here to stay. My two cents is none of them should have alcohol there.

[james schaechter]

I do think they serve a purpose and a good one. That being said, car count vs schedule vs weather delay risks are all factors.

Planning and execution of the races given all of this should be adjusted as needed and not the same for every race. The historical data is there.

Some adjustments would make it a better experience for the racers and the many weekend warrior NHRA employees that often have the same problem getting back to their days jobs as racers.

I like the points meet and a national open combination. The opens can be done in a day most of the time and adds another quick race. Usually one qualifier and go race so an extra grade point is there for one tow.

I realize that D5 for example is in a bad spot so they need to do doubles just to have a points series at all.

[RileyRacingEntrprises]

I absolutely love doubles. I would prefer the schedule be nothing but doubles. Saves time and money