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View Poll Results: Yay or Nay
This is a net good 86 43.88%
This is a net bad 52 26.53%
Don't care, I'm going to stay in my lane 58 29.59%
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Old 06-23-2025, 12:31 PM   #1
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That's a fair question. It's mostly because the NHRA published horespower rating no longer has anything to do with actual HP. Somewhere in time, it became a factor in the math to regulate the classes.

Due to standards that didn't exist in "The Way Back" the HP numbers that the manufacturers publish are much more honest than in the past. That would make them less than competetive in the world of NHRA Stock/SS racing.

Daren, thank you for the response to my question. I think what you are doing in terms of adding an exciting new car/combination to Stock Eliminator is a good thing and your hard work should be commended. However, one does not have to look back too far to see the results of what I believe is over generous NHRA HP ratings related to new cars/combinations.
For example, 2010 INDY; 11 of the top 16 qualifiers were 2008-2010 entries.
2011 INDY; all top 16 qualifiers were 2008-2011 entries.

In my opinion, new cars/combinations in Stock Eliminator should be competitive, but they should not be dominating classes full of previous top qualifiers that have been flogging out there combinations for the past 20+ years.
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Old 06-23-2025, 01:36 PM   #2
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Default Re: Toyota Supra in Stock Eliminator (Poll)

When classified by hp vs weight, body aerodynamics can be an advantage, old vs new.
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Old 06-23-2025, 01:59 PM   #3
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Default Re: Toyota Supra Class Prediction

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Daren, thank you for the response to my question. I think what you are doing in terms of adding an exciting new car/combination to Stock Eliminator is a good thing and your hard work should be commended.
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However, one does not have to look back too far to see the results of what I believe is over generous NHRA HP ratings related to new cars/combinations.
For example, 2010 INDY; 11 of the top 16 qualifiers were 2008-2010 entries.
2011 INDY; all top 16 qualifiers were 2008-2011 entries.
I guess that was all Drag Paks and Cobra Jets? My thought is that it would be better to look at more years if you want to make a fair argument. I can think of more than a few combinations that are really strong when the AHFS is turned off.


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In my opinion, new cars/combinations in Stock Eliminator should be competitive, but they should not be dominating classes full of previous top qualifiers that have been flogging out there combinations for the past 20+ years.
That assumes that the performance increases are all due to "flogging". But, not "enhancements". Why shouldn't a new car be Bad ***** right out of the box?
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