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Old 04-07-2024, 11:47 AM   #1
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I'm shocked that the reduction of tech in stock has lead to these major rule infringements. Guess we won't see this car race for 10,000 at Indy this year. Congratulations. Replacing a steel roof with carbon fiber/plastic?
This is what Stock eliminator has become?
This car isnt "allowed" in the 10k race per the rules stated for that race.
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Old 04-07-2024, 11:52 AM   #2
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I'm shocked that the reduction of tech in stock has lead to these major rule infringements. Guess we won't see this car race for 10,000 at Indy this year. Congratulations. Replacing a steel roof with carbon fiber/plastic?
This is what Stock eliminator has become?

The roof panels on this generation hard-top (1994-2002) Firebirds and Camaros are plastic / fiberglass from the factory and are glued on with an adhesive - they are not steel and never were - be careful with the assumptions..... They are also not easy to replace.
That can happen to anybody, can we just hope that the guy's car is ok?

I don't know if any aftermarket companies are making a repro but I do know they are not available from the factory nor have they been for a very long time. I tried finding one a few years ago and had no luck. The only option is to get one from a donor car and to get it off you have to use fishing line or piano wire, work it under the panel, and slice through the adhesive. It can't be peeled off with a putty knife.
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Old 04-07-2024, 12:31 PM   #3
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The roof panels on this generation hard-top (1994-2002) Firebirds and Camaros are plastic / fiberglass from the factory and are glued on with an adhesive - they are not steel and never were - be careful with the assumptions..... They are also not easy to replace.
That can happen to anybody, can we just hope that the guy's car is ok?

I don't know if any aftermarket companies are making a repro but I do now they are not available from the factory nor have they been for a very long time. I tried finding one a few years ago and had no luck. The only option is to get one from a donor car and to get it off you have to use fishing line or piano wire, work it under the panel, and slice through the adhesive. It can't be peeled off with a putty knife.
Angelo is correct.

Depending on the year, both the roof and sail panels are either thermoplastic or fiberglass and GM discontinued them years ago.
When you go to the wrecking yard and try to remove them, it is worse than removing a windshield and they warp or get damaged. The OEM factory pieces were also defective and would bubble due to an issue with the epoxy and materials.

The aftermarket replacements for both the roof and sail panels are either fiberglass or carbon fiber.
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Old 04-07-2024, 12:33 PM   #4
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Angelo, I have a brand new one in the box along with all the components to switch from T-tops to solid roof.
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Old 04-07-2024, 12:39 PM   #5
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Guess we won't see this car race for 10,000 at Indy this year.
Aside from the fact that this car wouldn’t be allowed in the Indy $10k race, they are planning to have this car on track next week in Vegas.
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Old 04-07-2024, 09:03 AM   #6
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It was the roof not a t top
I’m gonna guess the roof was carbon fiber plastic not steel
I know a racer who told me that these 4th generation car could be equipped with carbon fiber door fenders hoods
Because these components are factory plastic
His car was a well know car at the time and had these part
Remember nobody’s checking
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Old 04-07-2024, 09:08 AM   #7
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James Perrone...KNOWS!
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I would say it’s the first or worst rule.
Unrelated if there are two center lines, does touching the center line with the tire on your side count as an infraction, like basketball or does part of the tire have to be outside the first line or does the tire have to cross both lines to be an infraction?
I’m glad nobody got hurt.
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