Ways to check on the use of illegal devices

[1320racer]

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[Henrys Toy]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

Ya know, to certain types, winning at any cost is everything!

Good afternoon Billy & Doug and to all,
I couldn't have said that any better myself !
I'm sure we've seen it already to may times.

Respectfully,
Henry Kunz 1534 H/SA

[1320racer]

cheating in motorsports is nothing new and has been done in every venue probably since the very first time 2 cars or a group of cars lined up. Many of the biggest names in motorsports have won numerous championship and millions by either exploiting the grey rules or outright cheating so say what makes you feel good about yourself on an internet forum but some of your heroes wouldn't be if they didn't cheat. No one who has is going to hell no mind going to prison and/or paying restitution. We all know the Dodge Boys/Wayne County cheated yet nothing was done because of who their sponsor was but Jerry Eckman was ostracized.

Some of the stock guys that say they would never cheat are the same guys that have their heads and manifolds ported(I've seen their heads and manifolds being ported years ago at a big name shop) and then justify it in their mind by saying there's no way racer x is running what he does without porting so I'm going to do it too.

[Billy Nees]

Hey Ed, neither Henry nor I mentioned the word "cheating". You did.

[1320racer]

Billy this entire thread is about cheating and when you state...

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

winning at any cost is everything!

EVERYONE knows you are implying cheating!

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by 1320racer

Billy this entire thread is about cheating and when you state...


EVERYONE knows you are implying cheating!

Ed, you're ASSuming. I was talking about money. ;-)

[Doug Hoven]

Originally Posted by 1320racer

Some of the stock guys that say they would never cheat are the same guys that have their heads and manifolds ported(I've seen their heads and manifolds being ported years ago at a big name shop) and then justify it in their mind by saying there's no way racer x is running what he does without porting so I'm going to do it too.

Unfortunately cylinder heads and manifolds being ported is not something that will ever go back to the way it used to be. I'm sure if cylinder heads started being policed as strict as the rulebook states, their wouldn't be such a large group of racers lobbying to lower the indexes by 3 tenths. It's sort of like the speed limit. While those going 85mph in a 65 are breaking the law, you don't get a reward for doing 65. There's an interesting story I've heard of someone getting thrown out at Indy when 3 cylinder heads from 3 different cars with supposedly identical castings were inspected at the same time. 2 out of the 3 had ported heads, the other one didn't. Guess who was thrown out....

[Fred Elsass]

I will NEVER cheat.


Sarge

[1320racer]

Fred, in your almost 83 years on this rock, you've never cheated at anything?

Not playing a game, not at school, not on your taxes not in the workplace?

Even clergy cheat.

[bigshow2966]

Want to see what a good driver in a good car can do with no tricks? Watch the World Footbrake Challenge. We don't need no steenking electronics.