65-85 under. - Page 2

Mike McCandless · 12-24-2022, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich

Let's be honest, the classes (Stock and Super Stock) need more competition, more speed, and lower ET's, in order to draw new competitors, and new spectators. We're still not working hard enough to get more class eliminations happening in front of more people, and we're not working hard enough to create more rewards for qualifying, for winning heads up races, etc. Whether or not it benefits any individual directly, it benefits the classes. And we're here literally arguing about whether or not to turn people loose and let them race without crippling their combination. I don't think racers or spectators are going to hang around for 1000' agreed dumps.

More speed and lower ET's isn't the key to getting new blood into S/SS. The nature of the class makes it incredibly difficult for an outsider to come in. The class is fueled by multi decade racers or son/daughters of multi decade racers. I'm not saying that's a bad thing, Only the hardest core of racers would jump into the hornets nest, which limits the potential participants. I believe S/SS is the biggest it will be and will only go down in participation over time.

Kirk Morgan · 12-24-2022, 09:22 PM

I think thats a good question as to how much new blood is coming into the sport. We have seen a few posts on new people and projects. We all know it is usually cheeper to buy a running combination. The truth be known many people dont have that much cash to dole out at once. Iam currently a friend build a car that will be class legal but will have a bracket motor in it to sort out the car and then move to super stock. I think 75% of the racers will not be affected by the new rules.

Mike McCandless · 12-24-2022, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Kirk Morgan

I think thats a good question as to how much new blood is coming into the sport. We have seen a few posts on new people and projects. We all know it is usually cheeper to buy a running combination. The truth be known many people dont have that much cash to dole out at once. Iam currently a friend build a car that will be class legal but will have a bracket motor in it to sort out the car and then move to super stock. I think 75% of the racers will not be affected by the new rules.

On the mopar side we have the joy of never having parts to purchase from the manufacture, which makes it 2x more difficult. There are solid combo's to run in various cars, but next to impossible to get any pieces. I can't speak to how things are on the Chevy or Ford side. When I posted my ad up for S/SS cars, got offered a lot of great advice, almost all combos that don't currently have parts available. The few that are out there are being hoarded by guys running those platforms as back ups, which I understand. It has been quite the challenge to put together 2 good cars over the winter that at least have a shot in a heads up run, but also be consistent for the eliminator. We will have next to zero time to test before racing, so that should be fun

. If it was easy, everyone would do it, but that's not what S/SS is about.

B Parker · 12-24-2022, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Kirk Morgan

I think thats a good question as to how much new blood is coming into the sport. We have seen a few posts on new people and projects. We all know it is usually cheeper to buy a running combination. The truth be known many people dont have that much cash to dole out at once. Iam currently a friend build a car that will be class legal but will have a bracket motor in it to sort out the car and then move to super stock. I think 75% of the racers will not be affected by the new rules.

Kirk the AHFS as it was written affected 75%. Have you been to a race? Stock racer's are playing the run the car soft game most of the time. Again look at Indy it's an indication how fast some of these comb's can go with no AHFS. And to repeat myself Indy is about 2 tenths slow compared to good air. If your friend is building a Super Stock car there is nothing cheap about it. Good luck

B Parker · 12-24-2022, 11:47 PM

When my brother and I started racing Stock in 1976 it was one of the few classes that paid money at the local tracks. We wanted to run a class that paid money and you could race at a National Event. Anyone that is starting out today with the big bracket races and what some tracks pay on a weekly basis would be not right to build a Stocker. Then again if your not right you will fit right in.

12-24-2022, 09:22 PM	#2
Kirk Morgan Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 230 Likes: 1 Liked 81 Times in 45 Posts	Re: 65-85 under. I think thats a good question as to how much new blood is coming into the sport. We have seen a few posts on new people and projects. We all know it is usually cheeper to buy a running combination. The truth be known many people dont have that much cash to dole out at once. Iam currently a friend build a car that will be class legal but will have a bracket motor in it to sort out the car and then move to super stock. I think 75% of the racers will not be affected by the new rules.

12-24-2022, 11:47 PM	#5
B Parker Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 852 Likes: 991 Liked 2,343 Times in 465 Posts	Re: 65-85 under. When my brother and I started racing Stock in 1976 it was one of the few classes that paid money at the local tracks. We wanted to run a class that paid money and you could race at a National Event. Anyone that is starting out today with the big bracket races and what some tracks pay on a weekly basis would be not right to build a Stocker. Then again if your not right you will fit right in.