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Old 02-11-2022, 02:00 PM   #1
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1000 lbs right............lol
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Old 02-16-2022, 10:18 AM   #2
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This argument goes back to 2009 when I purchased one of the very first BIW Camaros. There was some heated discussion about the shipping weight. The gentleman at Chevrolet would not listen and submitted the 2010 Camaro at around 3,800 lbs. without driver.

At that time, nobody had really done anything with one of these cars. Since I knew that Chevrolet wanted to build the COPO, I tried to get them to work with me to come up with an NHRA accepted rear suspension. My emails went unanswered.

In 2011 I purchased a zero option 1 SS Camaro. It weighed around 3600 lbs. minus driver. At the PRI Show I crawled under the COPO and measured the rear suspension. I then went to Bruce at NHRA and worked with him to make it legal for the 2010 Camaro. I went home and built it. All the time sharing with Bruce.

Before I got the car finished the whole COPO thing happened...

In 2015 I ordered two new 2016 cars. I decided to park the 2012 because of it's unique history. That left the 2014. I reached out to Chevrolet about putting all the Camaros in the guide. They settled on the 2015.

With all of the knowledge gained in those years it was obvious that a 2015 Camaro built within the current rules for Stock Eliminator would weigh around 2,800 lbs without driver. That's 1,100 lbs. from what you want and 800 lbs. from the 2012 car that I owned!! The decision was made to keep the ballast to no more than 500 lbs.

That is the way the 2015 Camaro got to that weight.

If the NHRA wants new cars in the Class guide, they have to make a weight concession for all of the stuff that can legally be removed.

OK, that's my version of history. One day I'll share my story on the LS3 engine specs......
Ya know, I don't know why I haven't brought this up sooner and I realize that it's apples-and-oranges but the Cavalier has to weigh 2830 w/driver to fit it's natural class and it rolled across the scale at 2850 w/driver complete with radio, heater, a/c and spare tire and jack. Shipping wt. is 2676.
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Old 02-19-2022, 09:51 AM   #3
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I believe a lot of the fiction in the Classification Guide was done, as one sponsored racer explanation; “What do you expect, Pontiac the official car of NHRA”. So is that greasing the palm or the wheel, the real question will NHRA fix it
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