This will make AHFS work - Page 2

Dick Butler · 04-09-2008, 10:14 PM

Triggers must be there to factor cars. THe game was making it worthwhile to run fast. 1) to win class2 To win class prestige and More likelly to RACE each other.

bsa633 · 04-09-2008, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Dick Butler

Triggers must be there to factor cars.

yes..or some kind of system..but if you lower the index and trigger the same amount...it really dosent solve anything of todays "problems" with sandbagging or?

Dick Butler · 04-10-2008, 07:14 AM

BSA The goal is to reward going fast to win class with payout for class being a couple thousand $. Getting the trophy becomes something many people can strive to do since it is contested over 4 or 5 times as many cars. Your friends recognize your winning class isnt because of dilution of the racers to where no one fits your class so you get the trophy for towing to the event.(not faulting anyone for being the only one in the class, just circumstances today) Numbers could be different. Thanks.

Chuck Beach · 04-10-2008, 07:19 AM

Everyone has great ideas on this subject and it has been discussed over and over again on this forum and the other forum. But there will never be a good and satisfactory method for the following reasons:

1) we don't all go to the same machine shop
2) we don't all run the same combination
3) we don't all run the same brand
4) we don't all have equal OEM 'replacement parts' (heads, blocks, etc.)
5) we don't all spend the same amount of money
6) we don't all put the same time and effort into our combo
7) we don't all race at the same races where the conditions could be mind shaft or really bad
8) we don't all run our race cars on kill all the time nor do we want to because of the wear and tear, so it only makes sense to back them down if no heads up are involved
9) we don't all race the same number of races each year, so the data is not consistant
10) there are not the same number of cars that make up each combo, some have 2 or 3 cars (ie. 340) while others have 50 or more (ie. 305's)
11) we don't all own our own machine shops

So with this in mind are we trying to

1) create a socialist class (everyone is the same regardless of time, money and effort)
2) penalize the racers that work hard, spend the time and money to be the best
3) throw out what this class was built on ..... PERFORMANCE

I know there are obvious combos that are under rated and there are some over rated and that is what NHRA is trying to even out with AFHS, but I don't know if there will ever be common ground to resolve all of the HP ratings.

Just my 2 cents ...
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04-09-2008, 10:14 PM	#1
Dick Butler VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Richmond Indiana Posts: 1,196 Likes: 5 Liked 32 Times in 19 Posts	Re: This will make AHFS work Triggers must be there to factor cars. THe game was making it worthwhile to run fast. 1) to win class2 To win class prestige and More likelly to RACE each other.

04-10-2008, 07:14 AM	#3
Dick Butler VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Richmond Indiana Posts: 1,196 Likes: 5 Liked 32 Times in 19 Posts	Re: This will make AHFS work BSA The goal is to reward going fast to win class with payout for class being a couple thousand $. Getting the trophy becomes something many people can strive to do since it is contested over 4 or 5 times as many cars. Your friends recognize your winning class isnt because of dilution of the racers to where no one fits your class so you get the trophy for towing to the event.(not faulting anyone for being the only one in the class, just circumstances today) Numbers could be different. Thanks.

04-10-2008, 07:19 AM	#4
Chuck Beach Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Delaware, Ohio Posts: 664 Likes: 12 Liked 58 Times in 13 Posts	Re: This will make AHFS work Everyone has great ideas on this subject and it has been discussed over and over again on this forum and the other forum. But there will never be a good and satisfactory method for the following reasons: 1) we don't all go to the same machine shop 2) we don't all run the same combination 3) we don't all run the same brand 4) we don't all have equal OEM 'replacement parts' (heads, blocks, etc.) 5) we don't all spend the same amount of money 6) we don't all put the same time and effort into our combo 7) we don't all race at the same races where the conditions could be mind shaft or really bad 8) we don't all run our race cars on kill all the time nor do we want to because of the wear and tear, so it only makes sense to back them down if no heads up are involved 9) we don't all race the same number of races each year, so the data is not consistant 10) there are not the same number of cars that make up each combo, some have 2 or 3 cars (ie. 340) while others have 50 or more (ie. 305's) 11) we don't all own our own machine shops So with this in mind are we trying to 1) create a socialist class (everyone is the same regardless of time, money and effort) 2) penalize the racers that work hard, spend the time and money to be the best 3) throw out what this class was built on ..... PERFORMANCE I know there are obvious combos that are under rated and there are some over rated and that is what NHRA is trying to even out with AFHS, but I don't know if there will ever be common ground to resolve all of the HP ratings. Just my 2 cents ... __________________ Chuck Beach 3340 STK __________________ Chuck Beach 3340 STK