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Old 08-06-2021, 01:15 AM   #1
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I knew that.
You don't think NHRA will give up the Div. deal readily, do you? You don't think they're going to let bracket cars in off the street to replace S/SS and the .90's at Nat'ls do you?
You don't think guys will still go to 8-9 Div's and then boycott Nationals, do you?

I know how you like go off topic to avoid answering the question.

Mark,
While others have talked about a boycott of National events. Please quote one of my posts where I said a boycott of any event is what should be done.

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Old 08-06-2021, 12:01 PM   #2
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I don't think so, Stanley
Who are they going to replace us with?
Where are they going to get 4-500 racers that will go to divisionals for 3-4 day to win a mere pittance, compared to the entry? Multiply that by 7-8 times for the privilege of getting abused at Nat'ls.
Divisionals have NO spectator gate, so that whole scam would fold.

Bracket racers know better. We lost that crowd decades ago.

We damn sure know they won't replace you with Import racing.

The ball is in your court.. I doubt anybody at NHRA has the promotional skills to replace you with anybody.
In the event of an attempted boycott of Natl Events, who would they replace us with?
Street Outlaws, Pinks (with that creepy announcer guy), 275Xcars, 10.5 tire guys, 8.5 tire guys, outlaw Pro Stock, nostalgia Pro Stock, nostalgia Super Stock (don't have to do any of the annoying tech stuff), nostalgia Top Fuel, nostalgia just about anything, wheel standers, jet cars, circus animals, clown, people with those tshirt guns, people making balloon animals, bikini contests, should I go on?

Secondly, there are enough people who want to win a Natl Event, they would say they were going to boycott and then show up anyway to try to sneak out an easy win. Don't even talk about boycotts, not going to happen and NHRA is just hoping for it to happen. Remember how successful the Modified Elim protest at Indy turned out?
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Old 08-06-2021, 12:18 PM   #3
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I remember how the muffler deal went in Gainesville. It was successful I think.
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Old 08-06-2021, 12:28 PM   #4
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If Stock and SuperStock never showed up to another race the SUPER/GAS/COMP/STREET cars would be more than enough to fill in the void.

If you want a challenge then sportsman bracket races have plenty of good racers. Heck, in 1st round last year of the Sunmet et nationals the Current National Champ in Stock eliminator "Jody Lang" went out 1st round.
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Old 08-06-2021, 12:21 PM   #5
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In the event of an attempted boycott of Natl Events, who would they replace us with?
Street Outlaws, Pinks (with that creepy announcer guy), 275Xcars, 10.5 tire guys, 8.5 tire guys, outlaw Pro Stock, nostalgia Pro Stock, nostalgia Super Stock (don't have to do any of the annoying tech stuff), nostalgia Top Fuel, nostalgia just about anything, wheel standers, jet cars, circus animals, clown, people with those tshirt guns, people making balloon animals, bikini contests, should I go on?

Secondly, there are enough people who want to win a Natl Event, they would say they were going to boycott and then show up anyway to try to sneak out an easy win. Don't even talk about boycotts, not going to happen and NHRA is just hoping for it to happen. Remember how successful the Modified Elim protest at Indy turned out?
Jim, None that you mentioned would pay the entry fees i.e. the cash cow , that we do.. Minimum 60 times 4 categories x (help me here) $350? x 240 = 84 K, TS and TD, 21K = 105 K loss
. Now , N/PS types would race for free probably, but won't pay like we do.

The second part, I agree with you on. Ain't gonna happen.
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Jim, None that you mentioned would pay the entry fees i.e. the cash cow , that we do.. Minimum 60 times 4 categories x (help me here) $350? x 240 = 84 K, TS and TD, 21K = 105 K loss
. Now , N/PS types would race for free probably, but won't pay like we do.

The second part, I agree with you on. Ain't gonna happen.
Mark, not disagreeing with you, more of a philosophical debate as this has been hashed on for decades. Things are what they are, you either accept it and race or buy a fishing boat. For now, I am opting for racing.
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Old 08-06-2021, 12:25 PM   #7
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They will not Fold!


They will simple replace you with some different classes.






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My point is ...Easier said than done...Ain't gonna happen.
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