U.S. Nationals schedule

[B Parker]

Originally Posted by Todd Hoven

More races with no tech? This is better? Big deal it’s a 5 day race. If things don’t go well for someone, you literally can show up on Wednesday and be going home on Thursday morning. WTF? Why does the Allstars race have to be run at Indy? Who’s idea in the NHRA was this no tech to save time deal? The experience of racing Indy has been watered down. Basically it’s a glorified points race now. Pretty disappointing. But at least the parking situation is better.

But Todd they let you park on Monday. LOL So parking on Monday takes the place of the last race that actually had tear downs. And lets completely ignore the poll that overwhelmingly show's the racers that actually go to the race want it to be without AHFS. I'm sorry but for me they have Ruined Indy !!!!!!!!! Barry

[Nick Heath]

Originally Posted by Todd Hoven

More races with no tech? This is better? Big deal it’s a 5 day race. If things don’t go well for someone, you literally can show up on Wednesday and be going home on Thursday morning. WTF? Why does the Allstars race have to be run at Indy? Who’s idea in the NHRA was this no tech to save time deal? The experience of racing Indy has been watered down. Basically it’s a glorified points race now. Pretty disappointing. But at least the parking situation is better.

Todd, you nailed it. I've been thinking about this since I saw the thread last night - and I haven't been able to summarize my thoughts any better than this.

I wouldn't give NHRA much credit for fixing the parking situation. Imagine this year turned out like 2019 (where no cars went down the track until ~2:30pm) - some racers would be going into round 1 eliminations on Thursday with potentially zero or only one rushed time trial. There might actually be a revolt.

The saddest part isn't just this schedule - it's the fact that once NHRA pulls off this year's iteration of the "U.S. Nationals" - it will become the normal procedure at Indy.

Just like no/limited tech inspection became normal.
Just like no/limited teardowns became normal.
Just like no class eliminations at national events became normal.
Just like starting the event on Thursday and running round 1 the same day became normal.
Just like quotas became normal.
Just like needing 8+ grade points to run a national event became normal.

[Glenn Briglio]

Originally Posted by SaraWalker

I can confirm class eliminations will be run on Weds.

So if you lose 1st round of class you only get one time trial?

[Dragrac419]

Originally Posted by Glenn Briglio

So if you lose 1st round of class you only get one time trial?

Two time trials the second one is first round of class.

[james schaechter]

Originally Posted by Adub464Q

This is how mis-information gets spread. I have talked to multiple NHRA sources.

Indy will be 1 Qualifier and then traditional class eliminations on Wednesday for both Stock and Super Stock. Yes, both classes will run class eliminations on the same day. So that is different than Indy of years past, but certainly better than last years version. In addition, Indy now has the Allstars to stuff into the schedule so lots of things get shifted around, including the Allstars banquet. That will be Wednesday night as well and NHRA is fully aware of class eliminations may run into this banquet time.

In addition, if we want to jump to conclusions, it looks like tear down may be eliminated. It appears to not be any time for tear down, unless they want to do a pre-tear down on Tuesday.

However, no one seemed to notice the fact that they brought back the Monday Parking Day? OF ALL THE COMPLAINING ON THIS SITE THE LAST TWO INDY YEARS ABOUT PARKING, NO ONE WANTS TO MENTION THIS FACT.

You know what is ruining racing...forums and social media. Pick up a phone and call someone to get answers or offer suggestions. Those people at NHRA are not against the racer. I am as critical as anyone against the NHRA and there are certainly improvements to be made on a constant basis. I am on the SRAC for the Super Classes and in general I am in contact with NHRA reps every week discussing different ideas about all things racing related.

Do the all star racers still get torn down? I think they did that in advance and I do believe some bogosity was found at times. Maybe they should consider some pre race teardown

Any names for the NHRA reps you talk with on these issues? I think the train wreck that is the executive level is the issue. The customer facing NHRA members love racing and racers. The execs love….their paychecks.

[scott smith]

I have attended the Big Go as a spectator every even year since 1982 , always looked forward to going , even attended the COVID race last year was so dissappointed shortened 2 days , no class runoffs, which is why i attend for stk, s/s , ! We were assured by NHRA that the things we were used to would return for this year . guess not . May just attend DIV. RACES and opens from here on out . Nhra has lost sight of why true fans go !

[MoJo Risen]

Originally Posted by scott smith

i have attended the big go as a spectator every even year since 1982 , always looked forward to going , even attended the covid race last year was so dissappointed shortened 2 days , no class runoffs, which is why i attend for stk, s/s , ! We were assured by nhra that the things we were used to would return for this year . Guess not . May just attend div. Races and opens from here on out . Nhra has lost sight of why true fans go !

nhra took drag racing hostage a long time ago.

[Glenn Briglio]

Originally Posted by Adub464Q

This is how mis-information gets spread. I have talked to multiple NHRA sources.

Indy will be 1 Qualifier and then traditional class eliminations on Wednesday for both Stock and Super Stock. Yes, both classes will run class eliminations on the same day. So that is different than Indy of years past, but certainly better than last years version. In addition, Indy now has the Allstars to stuff into the schedule so lots of things get shifted around, including the Allstars banquet. That will be Wednesday night as well and NHRA is fully aware of class eliminations may run into this banquet time.

In addition, if we want to jump to conclusions, it looks like tear down may be eliminated. It appears to not be any time for tear down, unless they want to do a pre-tear down on Tuesday.

However, no one seemed to notice the fact that they brought back the Monday Parking Day? OF ALL THE COMPLAINING ON THIS SITE THE LAST TWO INDY YEARS ABOUT PARKING, NO ONE WANTS TO MENTION THIS FACT.

You know what is ruining racing...forums and social media. Pick up a phone and call someone to get answers or offer suggestions. Those people at NHRA are not against the racer. I am as critical as anyone against the NHRA and there are certainly improvements to be made on a constant basis. I am on the SRAC for the Super Classes and in general I am in contact with NHRA reps every week discussing different ideas about all things racing related.

Nhra sources.......who

[NHRA Trey]

Originally Posted by Glenn Briglio

Nhra sources.......who

I am not much of a source but, I was asked by Austin if we were running real class at Indy, I told him yes.

[Ellis V Buth]

Originally Posted by Glenn Briglio

Nhra sources.......who

I don't know who specifically Austin asked...but Sara Walker did comment on this thread a few posts after Austin. Sara herself is a pretty good NHRA source who would know about this sort of stuff. So even if you question Austin's sources...now 2 NHRA sources have come on here and confirmed what he's saying.