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Old 11-27-2019, 12:16 PM   #1
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Really? I've seen an awful lot of rich strokes who know little or nothing about cars, who decide they're tired of golf or tennis, and want to be a super star in drag racing. These guy just keep writing checks until they have the prettiest, fastest car in whatever class they choose. And the hard workers, who are spending money they actually WORKED to earn, standby helplessly, while the lawyer, banker, insurance executive, real estate mogul, corporate executive, trust fund recipient, etc. runs them over. Want an example? SS/AH.
So, you are saying that money in class racing is a new thing?

I also find it interesting that you have the perspective that people with money didn't earn it. I guess nobody ever worked their way up to the top? Nobody ever put racing to the side to build a career? Heaven forbid that somebody like that should spend their hard earned money to have nice stuff. Is it now a sin to pay smart, hard working people to catch up?
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Old 11-27-2019, 12:42 PM   #2
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So, you are saying that money in class racing is a new thing?

I also find it interesting that you have the perspective that people with money didn't earn it. I guess nobody ever worked their way up to the top? Nobody ever put racing to the side to build a career? Heaven forbid that somebody like that should spend their hard earned money to have nice stuff. Is it now a sin to pay smart, hard working people to catch up?
Oh Jesus, here we go...

First, I AM saying that money in class racing is a relatively new thing. I am old enough to remember when class racing did not consist primarily of check-writing. The guys in the staging lanes actually built their cars, they didn't just assemble the stuff they paid others to do. Disagree if you want, but I WAS THERE. They didn't pull their COPO Camaro, transported in a stacker trailer, with a $500,000 motorhome. They towed their home-built car, on an open trailer, with a pickup truck. They weren't there for the fashion show; they were there to put their skill and knowledge up against the skill and knowledge of their competitors. Sure, money was involved, but intelligence, skill and hard work were the real keys to being fast.

I'm talking about a very specific group of "racers", who aren't really racers at all. They're "poseurs", who decide to spend their money (hard-earned, or otherwise) on "something cool", like drag racing. I hate the way people on this site take simple, unambiguous arguments and twist the intent into something they think the author should be ashamed of. How many "put racing to the side to build a career" guys do you REALLY assume there are? And why do you single out the rich guys as having "nice stuff". I've seen hundreds of bucks-down guys with very nice stuff. And finally, did I say that it's a sin to pay smart, hard working people to "catch up"? Not a single one of your chosen words or phrases appear in my post.

Make whatever bull**** you want to out of my post. I don't care. I'll stick to the position that the more you involve money in the sport (whether corporate or personal money), the farther away from its roots drag racing drifts.
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Old 11-27-2019, 12:49 PM   #3
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Just an observation.....13 pages already.

Does this thread remind others of the Indy Teardown thread?
Let me know how much popcorn to prepare?
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