Why is NASCAR Dying ? Video !

[rocketolds400]

Originally Posted by nhramnl

The millennials "act" is not an act. It is entirely real and YOU, not your generation, are in a minority, as a lover of cars and drag racing. You generalize to "defend" your generation, implying that the millions of people who perceive the majority of millennials as whining, self-serving, live-with-Mom-and-Dad, America-hating crybabies are wrong, and that because you like drag racing, all millennials do. And your snide comment about global warming is typical of your generation. No substantiation provided for the statement, just a sarcastic implication that if global warming isn't universally "understood" and accepted, those people who still question its legitimacy are idiots, for whom you can "do nothing". And precisely who in the hell are you? What qualifies you to teach anyone anything about global warming? Why in the world would anyone listen to you, if you did deign to try and educate them? You speak with completely unearned authority, presenting opinions and gossip-science as fact. And finally, nobody said millennials are solely responsible for the decline (and soon, death) of motorsports, but they have done virtually nothing to help.

Wow. He literally agreed its not a car culture...


So what qualifies you to attack him? What qualifies you to attack a generation? Seems to me he was responding to an unprovoked and overly generalized attack on a generation that you posted first.... but anyways...


Back to the topic, I think JohnRodericks' post about the money and failure to adapt as a root cause is spot on.

Originally Posted by JohnRoderick

Fundamentally, I believe NASCAR and the NHRA have failed to effectively adapt to more competitive advertising and entertainment markets.

Drag racing is still popular, its just that people have other events that bring more excitement and value for the dollar than the NHRA.

[nhramnl]

Originally Posted by rocketolds400

Wow. He literally agreed its not a car culture...


So what qualifies you to attack him? What qualifies you to attack a generation? Seems to me he was responding to an unprovoked and overly generalized attack on a generation that you posted first.... but anyways...


Back to the topic, I think JohnRodericks' post about the money and failure to adapt as a root cause is spot on.


Drag racing is still popular, its just that people have other events that bring more excitement and value for the dollar than the NHRA.

I didn't "attack" his generation, and certainly didn't attack him (how could I, when he hadn't yet posted his response to my original message?), and I doubt that anybody who reads my post would come to the same conclusion you did. I made some general statements about millennials in my original post, some of them admittedly sarcastic, but was careful not to "attack" them. But if I had, my qualifications would be age, education, work and life experience and the ability to understand what I read and see, on the street, on the news and on television. People don't generally impugn another person, culture, country, etc. without any reason, and this is no different. I made an amply demonstrated observation (i.e. millennials don't participate in the car culture to the degree that previous generations have), and his response (and apparently yours, as well) was that I'm picking on him and his generation and that because he likes cars, all of his millennial brothers and sisters do, as well. Sometimes, a cigar is just a cigar...

[Lenny5160]

Originally Posted by nhramnl

I didn't "attack" his generation, and certainly didn't attack him (how could I, when he hadn't yet posted his response to my original message?), and I doubt that anybody who reads my post would come to the same conclusion you did.

Sorry. Can confirm the interpretation of rocketolds400.

[Coleydog]

Us old guys a laying in the trenches waiting for the replacements that will never show, sad

[nhramnl]

Originally Posted by Lenny5160

Sorry. Can confirm the interpretation of rocketolds400.

So that brings the total who agree with rocketolds400's interpretation to 1 in 325,700,000 people in America. I'm actually still feelin' pretty good about my statement. For you math lovers, that's.00000000307 agreement. But you have to help me; in today's "touchy-feely" world, where everything offends everybody, I guess I should apologize to 1) the millennials, as a group, 2) the one millennial who likes drag racing, 3) rocketolds400, and 4) you... right?

[Lenny5160]

Originally Posted by nhramnl

You generalize to "defend" your generation, implying that the millions of people who perceive the majority of millennials as whining, self-serving, live-with-Mom-and-Dad, America-hating crybabies are wrong, and that because you like drag racing, all millennials do.

Can you quote where Whisman said anything like this? That he likes drag racing so all Millennials do?

It was pretty clear to me that he said he likes it, but he knows it is dying so he will enjoy it while he can. He didn't attempt to project his enjoyment of the sport onto anyone else.

You appear to be so rock hard to attack a real live Millennial that you don't really care what he actually said.

[nhramnl]

[QUOTE=Lenny5160;578069]Can you quote where Whisman said anything like this? That he likes drag racing so all Millennials do?

It was pretty clear to me that he said he likes it, but he knows it is dying so he will enjoy it while he can. He didn't attempt to project his enjoyment of the sport onto anyone else.

You appear to be so rock hard to attack a real live Millennial that you don't really care what he actually said.[/QUOTE














So what prompts him to take on the burden to "defend his generation"? Defend them against what? I think it's pretty rational to assume he thinks he's defending them against the claim that none of them like cars or racing. He makes the point that HE likes Super Stock racing; my question is "So what? What relevant point can be made (in defense of millennials) based upon the fact that YOU like drag racing?"


I totally get that the young man is trying to say "Don't paint us all with the same brush", but that logic depends on a reality that a reasonable percentage of your group isn't like the group as a whole. If there were hundreds of millennials in car clubs, driving street rods, drag racing, etc. I would be full of s**t, but that simply isn't the case. Auto racing is rapidly becoming the hobby of old guys.


I don't dislike the young man or his attempt to stick-up for his fellow young people. Just don't make an argument based on the assumptive implication that one person proves the exception to the rule. Fact is, young people don't have anywhere near the attraction to cars, trucks, motorcycles, boats, etc. that their parents and grandparents did. That doesn't make them wrong, but it also doesn't make observing that reality wrong, either.

[Lenny5160]

Your point about the waning interest of younger people in car culture and motorsports was just fine, and correct.

It would have been taken much better by the young person without the non sequitur remarks about a generation's politics and Ubering from one protest to another.

As long as there have been old people and young people, the young folks will generally be liberal and the old people will be conservative. That is not new, and I wouldn't expect it to change.

[nhramnl]

Originally Posted by Lenny5160

Your point about the waning interest of younger people in car culture and motorsports was just fine, and correct.

It would have been taken much better by the young person without the non sequitur remarks about a generation's politics and Ubering from one protest to another.

As long as there have been old people and young people, the young folks will generally be liberal and the old people will be conservative. That is not new, and I wouldn't expect it to change.

Your points are well-taken. Sometimes, my frustration with the liberal/conservative thing gets in my way a bit. You're a smart man, and appear to have a kind heart as well. Thanks.

[FrankChastain]

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