When you buy sunoco make sure it's not methanol - Page 2

HR9121 · 10-28-2018, 02:52 PM

Granted I haven't been doing this as long as alot of you but I have never failed fuel check with VP or Sunoco. Alot of it has to do with how the fuel is handled, jugs clean, fuel system cleaned out and flushed when changing fuels etc. Maybe I'm just lucky!

1320racer · 10-28-2018, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Charlie Yannetti

the problems that I've witnessed on the dyno, and at the track

please elaborate about the problems you witnessed as a result of Sunoco fuels...Standard aka Purple, Supreme aka Blue and Maximal aka red, those that are in use in bracket cars, stock, super stock, throttle stop classes, Top Sportsman, Top Dragster.

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Originally Posted by Charlie Yannetti

There are those guys on here, Dave and Rich, for example that I know have run the gambit with fuels, oils, plugs, parts, whatever.. they have each put in the time to compare different fuels, and found what they feel is best for them.. and their opinions are valued, and appreciated

You can count me amongst them, having bracket raced for 27 years and used every oil, plug, converter, carb, manifold, tire, yada, yada, yada as well VP fuels which I found offered no performance gain, no added consistency, only added cost.

Many bracket and class racers all across the country use Sunoco fuels, some for decades as I have and I don't personally know one that has had any issues with Sunoco fuels on the dyno or the track.

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Originally Posted by Rich Biebel

If you like VP and have had good results with it, buy it and run it.

If you like Sunoco and have had good results with it, buy it and run it.

Make sure you check it before you dump it in your fuel cell..

Agree with all the above.

I like Sunoco and have had good results with it. I'll continue to buy it and run it.

Now lets get back to the reason for this thread, the OP's whining and complaining because nobody at his local sunoco distributor will talk to him after he poured alcohol into his fuel cell.

Charlie Yannetti · 10-29-2018, 10:47 AM

Well, 1320racer, if I knew who you actually are, I may have included you..

To be specific, and to also be a little repetitive, I was involved in several test sessions involving a mandatory change from VP to Sunoco, and at those sessions, I got to witness, first hand, parts and engine failure while trying to match performance.. this was also evident on the dyno, and confirmed after disassembly..

Another specific would be loss of performance at a National event, in a Comp car, due to jetting and timing issues... luckily no damage, but because Sunoco was the mandatory fuel, we had to deal with it... and I can repeat my experience in my SG car while involuntarily back to backing the fuels, because VP was not let in the gate... I've been a VP guy for at least as long as you have been a Sunoco guy, and will pay a little extra for what I want... in all those years, I only tried Sunoco once, may have been misguided about the fuel cross over from brand to brand by the Sunoco rep, but was lucky not to have it bite me at that race.. I will continue to use VP RACE FUELS, even if I have to drive to get it...

NOW, if you want to get back to the original topic of this thread, fine.. this guy apparently got the wrong fuel, and put it in his car.. maybe he doesn't have the experience to be wary of that possibility, maybe the color was the same.. BUT, first of all, if it was at a D1 track, there should have been reps to deal with, and he could have had a face to face.. second, you asked what this guy is looking for??.. I'm sure if he got DQed, he like to be back in for chance to win the race.. but we know that the opportunity has passed... other than that, maybe the replacement of the fuel, if he's trusting enough... it's up to him to make his deal... but if I were him, I'd be sure to recognize the guy that he dealt with for the next time...

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HR9121 Live Reporter Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: New Bern, NC Posts: 3,467 Likes: 146 Liked 3,363 Times in 731 Posts	Re: When you buy sunoco make sure it's not methanol Granted I haven't been doing this as long as alot of you but I have never failed fuel check with VP or Sunoco. Alot of it has to do with how the fuel is handled, jugs clean, fuel system cleaned out and flushed when changing fuels etc. Maybe I'm just lucky! __________________ James Williamson W200 J/SA. SS/JA

10-29-2018, 10:47 AM	#3
Charlie Yannetti Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alpine, NJ Posts: 568 Likes: 188 Liked 192 Times in 83 Posts	Re: When you buy sunoco make sure it's not methanol Well, 1320racer, if I knew who you actually are, I may have included you.. To be specific, and to also be a little repetitive, I was involved in several test sessions involving a mandatory change from VP to Sunoco, and at those sessions, I got to witness, first hand, parts and engine failure while trying to match performance.. this was also evident on the dyno, and confirmed after disassembly.. Another specific would be loss of performance at a National event, in a Comp car, due to jetting and timing issues... luckily no damage, but because Sunoco was the mandatory fuel, we had to deal with it... and I can repeat my experience in my SG car while involuntarily back to backing the fuels, because VP was not let in the gate... I've been a VP guy for at least as long as you have been a Sunoco guy, and will pay a little extra for what I want... in all those years, I only tried Sunoco once, may have been misguided about the fuel cross over from brand to brand by the Sunoco rep, but was lucky not to have it bite me at that race.. I will continue to use VP RACE FUELS, even if I have to drive to get it... NOW, if you want to get back to the original topic of this thread, fine.. this guy apparently got the wrong fuel, and put it in his car.. maybe he doesn't have the experience to be wary of that possibility, maybe the color was the same.. BUT, first of all, if it was at a D1 track, there should have been reps to deal with, and he could have had a face to face.. second, you asked what this guy is looking for??.. I'm sure if he got DQed, he like to be back in for chance to win the race.. but we know that the opportunity has passed... other than that, maybe the replacement of the fuel, if he's trusting enough... it's up to him to make his deal... but if I were him, I'd be sure to recognize the guy that he dealt with for the next time...