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Old 07-08-2018, 08:43 AM   #1
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his reply was not enough cars running in pure stock, Robbie Butler was starting a mustang pure stock car before IHRA ended
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Old 07-08-2018, 09:10 AM   #2
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James ,I emailed Rich back when this div 2 thing started he said not enough cars in pure stock
Fields are so large they can’t handle 4 or 5 pure stocks. Lol
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Old 07-08-2018, 11:45 AM   #3
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What a beautiful day for Drag Racing. Couldn't ask for a cooler day in July to be at the track
Stock Eliminator Finals. Cody Phillips took the win over Terry Taylor, did i mention that is Uncle and Nephew
Super Stock Finals. Larry Leazer took the win over Brandon Peterson
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Old 07-08-2018, 11:03 PM   #4
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[QUOTE=james schaechter;566991]Dan, have you tried to contact Rich personally? With IHRA’s demise, the best pure Stocker move is to get together and see if Rich would consider allowing them. I don’t think anyone would have any trouble with PS cars running. I know for a fact that it won’t happen just by posting here. I would think that there would be no downside for the 1/8 mile open series to let them in. Especially to add a few cars. I know a phone call and e mail is a lot more likely then a conversion to a NHRA J/SA

Thanks JAMES!
It is not just the PS cars also the GT Stockers too.
Thankfully the CM guys stepped up to get venues to race in.
CM, GT and PS Rules are the well established, nothing to invent.
There is no down side except for the resistance of a few racers!
More cars, more revenue, more bench racing.

Just sad that there are motivated racers willing to support the sport.
Yet the decision makers decided to shut us out.
IMHO Not a smart business decision!

Before the IHRA announcement there were a handful of people building new Pure Stockers and received questions from others what to do!
My advocacy was working, had a small movement going too!

Converting to Stock costs a lot of money and especially time.
Not just about adding a cam and roll bar.
It is also getting the car to run 7 to 8 tenths under to compete.
If I was 50 years old might feel different.
PS was the perfect venue to get back into Class Racing.
At 67....too much right now to move to Stock.

Had NHRA supported GT, CM and PS a lot more racers would have built them.
They are cost effective low maintenance race cars.
I am not a professional mechanic so takes a lot to be prepared.
Only so much can be done in a driveway under HOA Rules.

Hello out there to Gray, Bobby and Ray!

Peace

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Old 07-08-2018, 11:30 PM   #5
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Dan, have you tried to contact Rich personally? With IHRA’s demise, the best pure Stocker move is to get together and see if Rich would consider allowing them. I don’t think anyone would have any trouble with PS cars running. I know for a fact that it won’t happen just by posting here. I would think that there would be no downside for the 1/8 mile open series to let them in. Especially to add a few cars. I know a phone call and e mail is a lot more likely then a conversion to a NHRA J/SA



Thanks JAMES!
It is not just the PS cars also the GT Stockers too.
Thankfully the CM guys stepped up to get venues to race in.
CM, GT and PS Rules are the well established, nothing to invent.
There is no down side except for the resistance of a few racers!
More cars, more revenue, more bench racing.

Just sad that there are motivated racers willing to support the sport.
Yet the decision makers decided to shut us out.
IMHO Not a smart business decision!

Before the IHRA announcement there were a handful of people building new Pure Stockers and received questions from others what to do!
My advocacy was working, had a small movement going too!

Converting to Stock costs a lot of money and especially time.
Not just about adding a cam and roll bar.
It is also getting the car to run 7 to 8 tenths under to compete.
If I was 50 years old might feel different.
PS was the perfect venue to get back into Class Racing.
At 67....too much right now to move to Stock.

Had NHRA supported GT, CM and PS a lot more racers would have built them.
They are cost effective low maintenance race cars.
I am not a professional mechanic so takes a lot to be prepared.
Only so much can be done in a driveway under HOA Rules.

Hello out there to Gray, Bobby and Ray!

Peace
Sorry, it’s not NHRA s job to support GT,CM,and PS. ....1 800 FLOWERS.....I need your address......LOL...........

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Old 07-09-2018, 09:15 AM   #6
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Sorry, it’s not NHRA s job to support GT,CM,and PS. ....1 800 FLOWERS.....I need your address......LOL...........
Actually yes it is !
They are being smart enough to support the CM’s..
GT and PS would have added 8-10 more cars.
The trend before IHRA dropped Class Racing was to build a non-traditional Stocker!
Had NHRA participated it would have doubled over night.

Importantly, it is a revenue issue!
Tracks run on narrow margins to stay profitable.
An additional 10 cars would help with Pit Fees.
Plus racers bring family and other spectators.
They buy things at the track, like Fuel, food, stuff!
Figure around $4000 more revenue just from the Stockers.

If you had a big bracket race they would have had twice the cars.
It is all about filling Pit Space!

Why limit your revenue intake denying other Stockers and SS?
NHRA has lots of money.
Not so with smaller tracks they are supposed to support!

IMHO NHRA is shooting their nose off despite their face.
Ok cool, handful of National and Divisional races have large draw of cars.
Participation is so large, racers have pre qualification rules to attend.

Not so with vast majority of other tracks....and this is ignored!
They struggle when it comes to supporting Class Racing.

In the Consulting world there is another term called Butts in Seats...
Class Racing it is Racers in Pit Space.

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Old 07-10-2018, 11:13 AM   #7
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Dan, have you tried to contact Rich personally? With IHRA’s demise, the best pure Stocker move is to get together and see if Rich would consider allowing them. I don’t think anyone would have any trouble with PS cars running. I know for a fact that it won’t happen just by posting here. I would think that there would be no downside for the 1/8 mile open series to let them in. Especially to add a few cars. I know a phone call and e mail is a lot more likely then a conversion to a NHRA J/SA



Thanks JAMES!
It is not just the PS cars also the GT Stockers too.
Thankfully the CM guys stepped up to get venues to race in.
CM, GT and PS Rules are the well established, nothing to invent.
There is no down side except for the resistance of a few racers!
More cars, more revenue, more bench racing.

Just sad that there are motivated racers willing to support the sport.
Yet the decision makers decided to shut us out.
IMHO Not a smart business decision!

Before the IHRA announcement there were a handful of people building new Pure Stockers and received questions from others what to do!
My advocacy was working, had a small movement going too!

Converting to Stock costs a lot of money and especially time.
Not just about adding a cam and roll bar.
It is also getting the car to run 7 to 8 tenths under to compete.
If I was 50 years old might feel different.
PS was the perfect venue to get back into Class Racing.
At 67....too much right now to move to Stock.

Had NHRA supported GT, CM and PS a lot more racers would have built them.
They are cost effective low maintenance race cars.
I am not a professional mechanic so takes a lot to be prepared.
Only so much can be done in a driveway under HOA Rules.

Hello out there to Gray, Bobby and Ray!

Peace

Dan u don’t need to run .80 under to race and u know that. Our stuff ran .40 .50 under for years! Make the car stock legal and go have fun.
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Old 07-07-2018, 11:16 PM   #8
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would have been there if they had pure stock,hope you get to feeling better
Concur!
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