The death of bracket racing........

[Tod Lane]

Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN

you forgot one thing.......The DELAY BOX !

Short, succinct, and spot on

But I would add any other timers/electronic device that drives the car for you, that controls any function a driver should be doing. I remember thinking when I first saw a delay box at Indy a few decades ago, "There goes the neighborhood".

The guy from Dedenbear said back then, and I quote, "I gives the less talented driver a chance"

But generations have grown up with them, I expect it would be hard for them to relearn to drive a car without all the gadgets. We used to tune the cars, today they tune the laptops...

[Geerhead55]

I've talked to several Super Pro/Box racers who've said they would never go back to Pro/No Box type racing. I might get my *** handed to me from time to time, but I still prefer to live and die by my own hand. I really like Stock and Superstock racing, and would love to have a stocker of my own, but its not in the cards at this time, so to get my "fix", I bracket race my Nova.
Danny Durham

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by Geerhead55

I've talked to several Super Pro/Box racers who've said they would never go back to Pro/No Box type racing. I might get my *** handed to me from time to time, but I still prefer to live and die by my own hand. I really like Stock and Superstock racing, and would love to have a stocker of my own, but its not in the cards at this time, so to get my "fix", I bracket race my Nova.
Danny Durham

Thats because those drivers probably could not drive a nail with a hammer without electronic aids...LOL

[Tod Lane]

Originally Posted by Geerhead55

I've talked to several Super Pro/Box racers who've said they would never go back to Pro/No Box type racing. I might get my *** handed to me from time to time, but I still prefer to live and die by my own hand. I really like Stock and Superstock racing, and would love to have a stocker of my own, but its not in the cards at this time, so to get my "fix", I bracket race my Nova.
Danny Durham

Well said...
Drive, not program your car.

[Michael Kilduff]

Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN

you forgot one thing.......The DELAY BOX !

Another is the RAIL dragster.

Some more are double entries and buy backs. I apologize for the redundancy if these have already been mentioned.

I took my street/strip car to the track today for a local bracket race. This was a 2K to win footbrake race and several racers were double entered and running 2 different cars, each entered twice! Yes, one driver with 4 actual entries. On top of that the buy backs were for first and second round.

Something else that I think is hurting bracket racing nowadays is the cost involved. Footbrake racing isn't so bad but the electronics crowd-at least around here-is seriously hooked on being the last car to leave.

The last 2 weekends we have had 4 races at two tracks within 30 miles of each other and there were quite a few sub 4.5 second cars rails (this is eigth mile) and several high 4 second full bodied cars. I would guess such cars are making 1200 HP or close to it, probably 25K engines and the trans and tires probably don't hang around for long either.

And I do think enclosed trailers have hurt all racing to a degree. Potential fans get a lot more excited seeing an actual race car on a trailer going down the highway or pulled in at a gas station than they do when they see a big white box going down the road.

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by Michael Kilduff

Another is the RAIL dragster.

Some more are double entries and buy backs. I apologize for the redundancy if these have already been mentioned.

I took my street/strip car to the track today for a local bracket race. This was a 2K to win footbrake race and several racers were double entered and running 2 different cars, each entered twice! Yes, one driver with 4 actual entries. On top of that the buy backs were for first and second round.

Something else that I think is hurting bracket racing nowadays is the cost involved. Footbrake racing isn't so bad but the electronics crowd-at least around here-is seriously hooked on being the last car to leave.

The last 2 weekends we have had 4 races at two tracks within 30 miles of each other and there were quite a few sub 4.5 second cars rails (this is eigth mile) and several high 4 second full bodied cars. I would guess such cars are making 1200 HP or close to it, probably 25K engines and the trans and tires probably don't hang around for long either.

And I do think enclosed trailers have hurt all racing to a degree. Potential fans get a lot more excited seeing an actual race car on a trailer going down the highway or pulled in at a gas station than they do when they see a big white box going down the road.

Without the delay box the dragsters are no better than a door car. Probably worse as I dont recall very many doing well until the delay box came out along with the trans brake.

[Tod Lane]

Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN

Without the delay box the dragsters are no better than a door car. Probably worse as I dont recall very many doing well until the delay box came out along with the trans brake.

We used to make a living off them... Took out four one night in Muncie, including a Top Alky car that was testing and actually made it a round or two.
We were dialed somewhere in the tens, I left and I looked back better than half way down the track or more he was still siting still, About 3/4 way down I saw a big flash in the mirror and I thought "he blew the POS up" and thought about peddling it. Glad I didn't, he blew by me about two feet past the finish line, I thought he was going to suck the paint off the car as he went past! The flash I saw was him leaving.

We went a lot of rounds without all the driving aids, I don't ever aim to change if I can find a way to race with out them

[savoyracer]

It's not so bad, Our local track has no payout, not even a trophy. We run both Sat. and Sun. sportsman has maybe 15 cars show up, Pro averages 12-14 cars, and super Pro has between 1 and 3 cars. PER EVENT gentlemen!! It is an eighth mile track on the coast, with excellent traction. And I for one am damn grateful to have this track within a 15 minute drive from home. this is a privately owned facility, and you know he is not gettin rich here. so I guess what I am trying to say is thank you to anyone who gives me the chance to enjoy bracket racing in any format.

[Mongo]

IF instead of looking for whats killing bracket racing,maybe look into events that are done right. 3 immediatly come to mind and all 3 were succeses last year.
1. WFC this year on Memorial day weekend in Bristol,Tenn
2.Last Chance 10 k footbrake race race held @ Cecil County,Maryland
3. Piedmont Thanksgiving weekend footbrake race.
All 3 have a solid following,all 3 will be run again next year, all 3 are organized/run by racers.
I could go into bashing my local track (LVD)... but whats the sense.
B.T.W. I have nothing against electronics, class racing. I race footbrake because thats what I prefer and thats why all the races I listed are footbrake events.
Chuck Morris

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