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For those of you who don't know Bob Rice. He is the Fletcher and Biondo of collecting "drag car pictures".
The man has an unbelievable collection. Tom Sheehan |
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This is for Dick Butler,
Do you know what ever happend to the 56 wagon you got off John Diana ? also do you have any pictures of your early race cars you could share with us? Thank you , Myron |
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Don Scholl...
Wow... I can't believe I failed to mention John Archambault, either. I used to follow his progress in Drag News (or, was it National DRAGSTER???) back when Class racing was an every week affair, and they listed the Class winners and told their e.t.'s. His car was a twin to mine... just about half-a-second quicker.... then, three quarters of a second quicker... as my frustration mounted. My parter, Harry Sparks, didn't seem to be any better at reigning him in than I was. His ability to extract power from a 220 hp 283 and get it to the ground in a chassis that as far as I was concerned, was a rolling traction problem, was incredible!!! He proved to be all but unbeatable in H/SA, then M/SA after NHRA changed the class structure (always 15 pounds per HP.) After he changed classes and started running a Hemi Barracuda (A/MP?), he continued his winning ways, but by then, nothing he did surprised me; he had broken my spirit with his '57 Chevy... Totally awesome racer...
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Vic, I have seen pictures of George's '58 "Toyko Rose" Pontiac. The one I saw photos of was a 4-door. I guess that was after the sedan deliveries were ruled illegal with a Hydro???
I wonder if anyone pulled the hydro out and stuck a Powerglide in, just to see what it would run? Of course, those were the old, cast iron Powerglides... but the hydros were ungodly heavy. Once, I weighed my setup, and I included everything; bell housing, torus cover, two torus members, and tranny... TWO HUNDRED AND TWENTY POUNDS... whew!!! By the time the NHRA made the hydro's illegal, Art Carr and Marvin Ripes had done some developmental work on Powerglide converters, I am sure. There may not have been a lot of difference in their e.t.'s with a 'Glide and a better converter, by then... I dunno. I'd love to know if anyone ever did a comparison. Surely, somebody did. I thought I saw an A-1 (Ripe's) logo on Dianna's sedan delivery. He might have had a 'Glide in there at one time or another... Dick Butler???
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Dwight,
I never got to see that '52 Olds of Jack's run. I had moved out of the stste by the time he was running that car, I guess. He was a very innovative racer, though, from what I heard. Didn't he run a '59, or so, Pontiac wagon in Super Stock with a 2bbl and a manual transmission? I seem to remember reading that he was very successful. Bill
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Did anybody make a conv. for the 58 hydro
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I have a vague recollection of Cureton running a '58. There were a few '58 Pontiacs around and a friend of mine ran one for a couple years. Craig Muller was his name and he was from NJ. He was also a pro bowler and made the TV show a few times. '58's had a lot of different engine combos possible with various induction and cams, both hydraulic and solid (McKeller). All were 4 speed hydros and were some very cool cars to me at the time. I owned one myself, a 2dr hdtp Chieftain and ran some 14 second times with my "street" car. It had a set of 4.56's in it to run fast and was a little rediculous towing a '57 Sedan Delivery with it ! The sedan Delivery did have a Vitar Hydro and it did weigh a ton and was a serious pain in the butt to bolt that "not a converter" together as it had a paper gasket and a lot of bolts. Who was the best Jr Stock racer of all time? Thats a very tough question as there were many guys that had a lot of success. I can tell you that any car that had Jenkin's Competition on it was usually fast and Cureton was always fast, but there were just too many real good cars and drivers to name one. Every track had a dominant group and then there were the guys who did real well at races like Indy....that was the biggest measuring stick back then was winning a National event....period
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