TruSTART looks to level the playing field.

[The Hawk]

Originally Posted by Bobby Fazio

Maple grove raceway announced today they upgraded to and will run truSTART this year in their bracket, junior and index programs. They are the 23rd track to upgrade so far.

Do you have a list of the tracks who upgraded?

[Casey Miles]

It will be interesting to see how Allen Reinhardt will take to the new tree if nhra considers it. On Joe Costello's radio show back in 2011 he was totally opposed to the idea because the fast car has to wait, he should get the knod.

[james schaechter]

I am not sure why this is related to stick car. This could be done and is done by many cars. Stick and auto. If you are implying that stick cars can't or don't bump in after prestaging, I would disagree. In cars that I drive that have a stage gauge, I typically bump in. In ones that don't I generally don't. I never considered that to be a component of courtesy staging and certainly don't use it as any kind of starting line game. Just because you prestige first doesn't mean you get to stage first. Am I missing something?

Originally Posted by Bob Mulry

For everybody but the stick guys.......

I have rolled into the pre-stage first and looked down at my gauges and when I looked up the stick car had both lights lit.......

Now I let the stick car light his pre-stage and slow everything down...

I am not the brightest bulb but I can learn....

Bob

[Bob Mulry]

Originally Posted by james schaechter

I am not sure why this is related to stick car. This could be done and is done by many cars. Stick and auto. If you are implying that stick cars can't or don't bump in after prestaging, I would disagree. In cars that I drive that have a stage gauge, I typically bump in. In ones that don't I generally don't. I never considered that to be a component of courtesy staging and certainly don't use it as any kind of starting line game. Just because you prestige first doesn't mean you get to stage first. Am I missing something?

I get it.....................

You said I 5 times..............

Not ALL but a LOT of stick cars wait for the other car to stage and then roll in and don't stop at the after the pre-stage......

This is NOT illegal in the eyes of Auto-Start.....

But, almost all automatic cars stop after they light the pre-stage and have there own procedure to run through before staging. Such as bringing to engine up to leave RPM and bumping in or rolling in at idle, set the brakes and bring it up on the the 2-step

My comment was if I (ME) stage last against a stick car then it forces the stick car to stop after they light the pre-stage and then they just can't roll in in light both.......

Bob

[james schaechter]

No worries Bob, I am a stick racer. I have raced automatics as well. There isn't really an advantage to "just rolling in" for me anyway" every racer has stuff to do after three bulbs are lit. I do think it is plenty of time for stick or auto racers to get prepared though. I guess I have never been one to always stage first or last all of the time. If we ever get to race, I will certainly let you prestage first if you prefer. LOL.
Six "I's" this time. A new personal best.

Originally Posted by Bob Mulry

I get it.....................




You said I 5 times..............

Not ALL but a LOT of stick cars wait for the other car to stage and then roll in and don't stop at the after the pre-stage......

This is NOT illegal in the eyes of Auto-Start.....

But, almost all automatic cars stop after they light the pre-stage and have there own procedure to run through before staging. Such as bringing to engine up to leave RPM and bumping in or rolling in at idle, set the brakes and bring it up on the the 2-step

My comment was if I (ME) stage last against a stick car then it forces the stick car to stop after they light the pre-stage and then they just can't roll in in light both.......

Bob

[doug_dornbos]

Congrats to Peter Biondo and Kyle Seiple for their apparent success at innovation. It takes vision, courage, sacrifice, and commitment ... all good qualities.

"a system that systematically scorns experimentation and wipes out the raw material of innovation, is doomed over the long term"
-Thinking in Systems by Donella Meadows, P. 160

The above book BTW helped to radically alter my perception of the role of sanctioning bodies in sport. Also, the book is now available online for free download in a couple different places. A GREAT book if you can get past some of the examples used.

I've been home for a couple weeks recuperating from surgery. This thread was "just what the doctor ordered." lol

Doug

[Bobby Fazio]

Looks like it would have been in effect at least 4 times that I saw today at zmax. 3 pairs in round 2 stock and at least one that I saw in round 1 super stock.

[Coleydog]

Got tired of reading all those posts, hope I don't repete any. First, S/S and Stock is a bracket race, don't think it's not. Second, this system makes everyone, fast or slow, race your tree, no easy outs. He red lites, game was over, not any more now. Ever hear of some racer dialing slower than the other guy? They won't do it, they want him to red lite first. Been that way forever. We all do it, look for the slower car to race to get any advantage.

[cicero819]

It's about time,a system that does not improve with time is a system due to disappear. I had started a post a while back and was crusified for such suggestion. Time changes which is what we want. just because the other car is faster doesn't mean he should have an easy one, he should pluck at the tree also. I hope NHRA moves on this system soon. They sure were quick at removing deep staging.CR