Old vs New during rounds - Page 2

Ed Wright · 02-21-2014, 11:26 AM

^^^^^ Yep, good post.

Joseph Teuton · 02-21-2014, 12:12 PM

Guys yall are taking this all wrong.

All I was trying to get accross is that the old cars have won more races than the newer cars. If I'm not mistaken we all go to the races to "win" and have a good time. It seems that you dont need a "new" or the "fastest" in the class car to win.

Michael you are 100% correct that "The idea that anyone with $100,000 invested in their car over a lifetime can or should scrap their car to purchase a new $100,000 car, or to scrap it and build only M/SA and slower cars is absolutely ridiculous." I never brought up a dollar amount because money should not be the reason a car or driver wins, I simply stated that with the time and r&r that yall have put into yall's cars most likley equals the amount that was put in our cars at the time of purchase. You even stated that " I did. It's the only way I could afford getting into Super Stock, and I did it specifically *because* it was ridiculously underfactored." So we can pick an choose the cars we want to drive on this same factor? Everyone in racing wants as much advactage as they can get. We all know there will be a time when the combonation we are running will be no more good. This is why they have a whole bunch of other classes to race to make sure you stay away from the cars you dont want to run untill you get the combo you are looking for. That hasnt changed since NHRA was developed.

Yall have yall's opinion, we have ours. Back to the Title of the post...
I have 2 people that has posted they were out ran by a new car in the last 5 years. Im not saying this doesnt happen..... all im saying is does it happen enough for yall to keep bringing this up over and over again?

Underfactored cars does not equal better cars. Aren't we all just looking for the BEST race car? I may have this all wrong, I've been told this before. Hope all have a great Friday! The parades start tonight here in Houma,La!!

ALMACK · 02-21-2014, 12:11 PM

I don't know of any of the VIN-less class cars running in Q/SA.
For now I feel safe.

Joseph Teuton · 02-21-2014, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ALMACK

I don't know of any of the VIN-less class cars running in Q/SA.
For now I feel safe.

Well my "S/N" number which can be found by MOPAR is 2011-008. Yea i know its not the 13 or 17 number like yalls but hey some of yalls cars didnt come with power windows either. Guys the times are changing its going to be ok. lol

ALMACK · 02-21-2014, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Joseph Teuton

Well my "S/N" number which can be found by MOPAR is 2011-008. Yea i know its not the 13 or 17 number like yalls but hey some of yalls cars didnt come with power windows either. Guys the times are changing its going to be ok. lol

I like the new cars...a lot.
My dream car is the 2013 CJ.

I remember back in '83 or '84 at the Winternationals seeing all those brand new Olds Cutlass 307 H.O. cars run in Stock.

As a young 22 year old, those brand new cars running 12's in Stock Eliminator was impressive to me.

sammy pizzolato · 02-21-2014, 01:03 PM

Pb i don't blame you one bit for building a new car.if i was building another car it would not be and old car i would build a late model. but NHRA should put it back the way they had it with a class for FI cars only. our old carb cars don't have a prayer aganst the new cars.and that is why you don't see me at all the races anymore i am not spending my hard earned money when i don't have a chance in a head's up race.i wish NHRA would wise up and put the FI classes back. and for the record i love watching the new cars our sport needs them but not in a heads up against and old car with a HP rating disadvantage.

Joseph Teuton · 02-21-2014, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by sammy pizzolato

Pb i don't blame you one bit for building a new car.if i was building another car it would not be and old car i would build a late model. but NHRA should put it back the way they had it with a class for FI cars only. our old carb cars don't have a prayer aganst the new cars.and that is why you don't see me at all the races anymore i am not spending my hard earned money when i don't have a chance in a head's up race.i wish NHRA would wise up and put the FI classes back.

Mr. Sammy if you are will to put the bowtie's I can see about getting you a ride in a MOPAR. Lol I'm not sure if the Chevy Gods will accept you after that but hey it's worth a shot! Lol

02-21-2014, 11:26 AM	#1
Ed Wright Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sand Springs, OK Posts: 8,132 Likes: 896 Liked 390 Times in 170 Posts	Re: Old vs New during rounds ^^^^^ Yep, good post. __________________ Ed Wright 4156 SS/JA

02-21-2014, 12:12 PM	#2
Joseph Teuton Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: HOUMA, LA Posts: 440 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Old vs New during rounds Guys yall are taking this all wrong. All I was trying to get accross is that the old cars have won more races than the newer cars. If I'm not mistaken we all go to the races to "win" and have a good time. It seems that you dont need a "new" or the "fastest" in the class car to win. Michael you are 100% correct that "The idea that anyone with $100,000 invested in their car over a lifetime can or should scrap their car to purchase a new $100,000 car, or to scrap it and build only M/SA and slower cars is absolutely ridiculous." I never brought up a dollar amount because money should not be the reason a car or driver wins, I simply stated that with the time and r&r that yall have put into yall's cars most likley equals the amount that was put in our cars at the time of purchase. You even stated that " I did. It's the only way I could afford getting into Super Stock, and I did it specifically because it was ridiculously underfactored." So we can pick an choose the cars we want to drive on this same factor? Everyone in racing wants as much advactage as they can get. We all know there will be a time when the combonation we are running will be no more good. This is why they have a whole bunch of other classes to race to make sure you stay away from the cars you dont want to run untill you get the combo you are looking for. That hasnt changed since NHRA was developed. Yall have yall's opinion, we have ours. Back to the Title of the post... I have 2 people that has posted they were out ran by a new car in the last 5 years. Im not saying this doesnt happen..... all im saying is does it happen enough for yall to keep bringing this up over and over again? Underfactored cars does not equal better cars. Aren't we all just looking for the BEST race car? I may have this all wrong, I've been told this before. Hope all have a great Friday! The parades start tonight here in Houma,La!! __________________ JOSEPH TEUTON 4044 STK,SS,

02-21-2014, 12:11 PM	#3
ALMACK VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Bardstown, KY Posts: 1,942 Likes: 132 Liked 373 Times in 131 Posts	Re: Old vs New during rounds I don't know of any of the VIN-less class cars running in Q/SA. For now I feel safe. __________________ Alan Mackin Stock 3777/ SS 3377 P/SA & SS/PA Fox Thunderbird I/PS '95 Mustang GT

02-21-2014, 01:03 PM	#6
sammy pizzolato Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: houma louisiana Posts: 432 Likes: 52 Liked 56 Times in 13 Posts	Re: Old vs New during rounds Pb i don't blame you one bit for building a new car.if i was building another car it would not be and old car i would build a late model. but NHRA should put it back the way they had it with a class for FI cars only. our old carb cars don't have a prayer aganst the new cars.and that is why you don't see me at all the races anymore i am not spending my hard earned money when i don't have a chance in a head's up race.i wish NHRA would wise up and put the FI classes back. and for the record i love watching the new cars our sport needs them but not in a heads up against and old car with a HP rating disadvantage. Last edited by sammy pizzolato; 02-21-2014 at 01:11 PM.