Who's participating in the Factory Stock Showdown at E-town?

[Andys dad]

Hey Jeff - what is the weight on the V10 and the blown cars?

Ron

[David Barton]

Originally Posted by Roger Cook

I can't wait, the 440hp DP get's to take out 220 lb. The 435hp COPO get's to take out 83 lb and the 416 hp CJ get's to add 60 lb wow ok. When did the 421 hp, 429 hp and 440 hp DP's get to weight 100 lb less then the 416 hp CJ !!!!!!!!!!!!! Did the Ramchargers make the rules up????????

It's simple, the Drag Pak Challenger's have been hit more times. If you ask me the 428 CJ's should be going a lot quicker than they have been.

Let's do a quick comparison. On paper the engine restrictions are basically the same except for one huge detail. 58 more cubes which equals about 100 more HP. Even if you cut my calculation in half and call it an extra 50 HP that should still blow away the 6.1 Hemi. I'd take the extra 58 cubes for 100 lbs any day.

Cubic Inches 370 vs. 428 = 58 more cubes
Compression 12.6 vs. 12.7 = .1 more compression
Intake Valve 2.100 vs. 2.085 = .015 smaller
Exhaust Valve 1.600 vs. 1.605 = .005 bigger
Intake Lift .602 vs. .589 = .013 smaller
Exhaust Lift .569 vs. .589 = .020 bigger
TB 1.75 vs. 1.75 = same

Either way the blower cars have the biggest advantage with the 10.20 index. The Atco race proved that. I ran 9.32 which was 1.18 under my 10.50 index. But Bo ran 8.78 with his 10.00 index making it 1.22 under. For Englishtown he gains 2 tenths on his index and I get to remove 50 pounds. Assuming that's all he had he will have me covered by .18-.20.

But hey, let's go racing. I'm looking forward to it. And if anyone needs help don't be afraid to ask.

[boster]

David , when anyone races you they bring all they have . I'm not the car to worry about it's the 5.0 with 2.9 blower thats the car to beat no matter who you are . Nice job on the numbers .

I agree with the other racers , let go race and enjoy the fact's , no AHFS , heads up off index and first to the finish line wins .

A big special thanks to NHRA , Ford , GM , Mopar and PC Richards for letting us run this type of racing at NHRA races

[Superfan1]

Originally Posted by Andys dad

Hey Jeff - what is the weight on the V10 and the blown cars?

Ron

The V10 is 3200 lbs., and the blown cars are 3500 lbs; both run on a 10.20 index.

[Andys dad]

Originally Posted by Superfan1

The V10 is 3200 lbs., and the blown cars are 3500 lbs; both run on a 10.20 index.

OK thanks - I think we could get ours to 3200 with Kirkey seats and NO driver ...

Just wanted to make sure we can get to the minimum


Ron

[Joseph Teuton]

Ron,

This away they can't say we couldn't get to min. Lol. I believe they are working on a different weight for the v10. We are in the same boat with both of our v10's!

Hope to see you around!

[khelms]

Kirkys, yep. 1/2 tank of fuel, yep. One Battery,yep. No weight in the car at all......comes in at 3220 on our scales. So if I can get my Three year old baby girl her 4B license we would still be 50 above minimum.........

[David Barton]

If they would make the rules similar to the P.C. Richard race we just had at Atco it would make more sense. I would change a couple things.

P.C. Richard
FS/SA - 10.00 Index - 3500 lbs Supercharged
FS/SB - 10.20 Index - 3400 lbs 451+ N/A
FS/SC - 10.50 Index - 3300 lbs 300-450 N/A

After running a few of these events I think this would work a little better. The weights are a little more realistic. And I'm not knocking what Mr. Richard has done for us. I greatly appreciate everything he does for the sport of Drag Racing. Plus he and his crew are top notch people.

Revised
FS/SA - 10.00 Index - 3500 lbs Supercharged
FS/SB - 10.30 Index - 3500 lbs 451+ N/A
FS/SC - 10.40 Index - 3250 lbs 401-450 N/A
FS/SD - 10.50 Index - 3250 lbs 300-400 N/A

The V10's can't weigh much less than 3500 with an average driver and battery so I figure if you added 100 lbs and a tenth to the index it would even out.

Based on actual timeslips the smaller N/A motors could use 50 lbs less.

The 426's, 427's, and 428's should have a tenth stiffer index. There is no reason why the 345, 370, and 392 should carry the same index as the bigger ones.

Just my opinion. In the end, even if you think your combination has a disadvantage you should run these events to support the cause. Plus It helps show just how fast or slow you really are. If you don't show then we'll never know. It really bothers me when we have special races like this and certain people choose not to run it. Especially when they are there but in a different class.

[Nitro Joe Jackson]

wish i live closer it will be neat to watch and i hate to say it might (should) gain more interest then the hemi shootout gets.

[Andys dad]

Originally Posted by David Barton

If they would make the rules similar to the P.C. Richard race we just had at Atco it would make more sense. I would change a couple things.

P.C. Richard
FS/SA - 10.00 Index - 3500 lbs Supercharged
FS/SB - 10.20 Index - 3400 lbs 451+ N/A
FS/SC - 10.50 Index - 3300 lbs 300-450 N/A

After running a few of these events I think this would work a little better. The weights are a little more realistic. And I'm not knocking what Mr. Richard has done for us. I greatly appreciate everything he does for the sport of Drag Racing. Plus he and his crew are top notch people.

Revised
FS/SA - 10.00 Index - 3500 lbs Supercharged
FS/SB - 10.30 Index - 3500 lbs 451+ N/A
FS/SC - 10.40 Index - 3250 lbs 401-450 N/A
FS/SD - 10.50 Index - 3250 lbs 300-400 N/A

The V10's can't weigh much less than 3500 with an average driver and battery so I figure if you added 100 lbs and a tenth to the index it would even out.

Based on actual timeslips the smaller N/A motors could use 50 lbs less.

The 426's, 427's, and 428's should have a tenth stiffer index. There is no reason why the 345, 370, and 392 should carry the same index as the bigger ones.

Just my opinion. In the end, even if you think your combination has a disadvantage you should run these events to support the cause. Plus It helps show just how fast or slow you really are. If you don't show then we'll never know. It really bothers me when we have special races like this and certain people choose not to run it. Especially when they are there but in a different class.

Thank you - a man who has done his "homework"

Regardless of the weight breaks - we would definitely be there if it were not for the 2000 mile trip, my job and Andy's last year of school

But I am a long time crazy drag racer - you never can tell where we might show up ... LOL

Ron