No lift division race - Page 2

Dick Butler · 02-19-2013, 10:18 PM

It will never happen. Too much to lose.

BBF67 · 02-19-2013, 10:48 PM

The actual racing in eliminations is run the full 1/4 mile. What gets people upset is when racers lift at 1000 ft. during qualifying. That would not stop even with a no lift division race.

D.Johns · 02-20-2013, 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by BBF67

The actual racing in eliminations is run the full 1/4 mile. What gets people upset is when racers lift at 1000 ft. during qualifying. That would not stop even with a no lift division race.

Well not everyone is 1320' even in heads up eliminations. Plenty of "gentlemen agreements" to shut them down at 1,000'. The cat and mouse games that some find exciting and fun. I think it should not be called racing at that point. The guys who don't play them game punish themselves. So you have 2 choices. Join in or challenge themselves and some would say, preserve their integrity.

I don't hate the players. I hate the game.

philbilly · 02-20-2013, 09:04 AM

Your either in front or behind no reason to ever be wide open...just sayin

Kegracing · 02-20-2013, 11:45 AM

Philbilly... Spoken like a old bracket racer! And I mean that in a good way!

Ken

Casey Miles · 02-20-2013, 11:59 AM

It doesn't matter what the person in the other lane is doing if you cut a light and run your number. The problem sets in when the person in the other lane is hiding the performance of the car so that they "don't get horsepower". This way they have the advantage over another competitor in a heads up race. NHRA should be doing their homework and take the 1/8 mile ET's, MPH and adjust HP to the vehicle from that point of the track, not the 1/4 mile ET, MPH. There would be alot less 1000' racers then, they would have go to the 330' not to show their hand. Good luck on dialing in from the 330' for a 1/4 mile race.

Casey Miles
248H "F" NHRA STOCK

sammy pizzolato · 02-20-2013, 12:16 PM

that's why if you make the rule that you can only go one tenth faster then your fastest time on the Q sheet even in a head's up race.so at that point a racer would have to show some kind of performance so he don't get burned on a head's up run. that would get rid of the 1000 ft qualifing.

Casey Miles · 02-20-2013, 02:14 PM

What's not to say that the drivers of the cars that have to race each other heads up make a deal not to race further then the 1000' so that they don't show the performance of the cars. You have to remember that there are factory cars out there now that aren't even close to their potential as far as HP being added to them. So why not make the deal with the other drivers of the same factory cars? They are in a win win situation, race to the 1000' and lift, no one gets HP. Make them race to the 330' not to get HP would work best.

Casey Miles
248H "F" NHRA Stock!

7423 · 02-20-2013, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by philbilly

Your either in front or behind no reason to ever be wide open...just sayin

Kinda says it all right there............................

I do not believe that hiding performance is the main reason why racers run to 1000 and lift. The smart ones do it to secure a friendly ladder position. Those racers, more often than not, go deep rounds on Sunday. What happens on Sunday is the reason why we compete.

Mike Gray · 02-20-2013, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by philbilly

your either in front or behind no reason to ever be wide open...just sayin

x2

02-19-2013, 10:18 PM	#11
Dick Butler VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Richmond Indiana Posts: 1,196 Likes: 5 Liked 32 Times in 19 Posts	Re: No lift division race It will never happen. Too much to lose.

02-19-2013, 10:48 PM	#12
BBF67 Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 89 Likes: 0 Liked 8 Times in 4 Posts	Re: No lift division race The actual racing in eliminations is run the full 1/4 mile. What gets people upset is when racers lift at 1000 ft. during qualifying. That would not stop even with a no lift division race.

02-20-2013, 09:04 AM	#14
philbilly Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Demossville,KY Posts: 337 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: No lift division race Your either in front or behind no reason to ever be wide open...just sayin

02-20-2013, 11:45 AM	#15
Kegracing Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Red Oak, TX Posts: 441 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: No lift division race Philbilly... Spoken like a old bracket racer! And I mean that in a good way! Ken

02-20-2013, 11:59 AM	#16
Casey Miles Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 703 Likes: 127 Liked 488 Times in 90 Posts	Re: No lift division race It doesn't matter what the person in the other lane is doing if you cut a light and run your number. The problem sets in when the person in the other lane is hiding the performance of the car so that they "don't get horsepower". This way they have the advantage over another competitor in a heads up race. NHRA should be doing their homework and take the 1/8 mile ET's, MPH and adjust HP to the vehicle from that point of the track, not the 1/4 mile ET, MPH. There would be alot less 1000' racers then, they would have go to the 330' not to show their hand. Good luck on dialing in from the 330' for a 1/4 mile race. Casey Miles 248H "F" NHRA STOCK Last edited by Casey Miles; 02-20-2013 at 12:00 PM. Reason: spelling

02-20-2013, 12:16 PM	#17
sammy pizzolato Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: houma louisiana Posts: 432 Likes: 52 Liked 56 Times in 13 Posts	Re: No lift division race that's why if you make the rule that you can only go one tenth faster then your fastest time on the Q sheet even in a head's up race.so at that point a racer would have to show some kind of performance so he don't get burned on a head's up run. that would get rid of the 1000 ft qualifing.

02-20-2013, 02:14 PM	#18
Casey Miles Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 703 Likes: 127 Liked 488 Times in 90 Posts	Re: No lift division race What's not to say that the drivers of the cars that have to race each other heads up make a deal not to race further then the 1000' so that they don't show the performance of the cars. You have to remember that there are factory cars out there now that aren't even close to their potential as far as HP being added to them. So why not make the deal with the other drivers of the same factory cars? They are in a win win situation, race to the 1000' and lift, no one gets HP. Make them race to the 330' not to get HP would work best. Casey Miles 248H "F" NHRA Stock!