All major event s/ss winners undrgo tech inspection - Page 2

NewHemi · 12-10-2011, 06:29 PM

The way schedules are set up for most Stock and Super Stock races is that there is no time before the races to tear down.

We tore down before the record run attemp in Las Vegas because the way that race is set up, we weren't scheduled to run until very late in the day instead of the usual 8:00 am call to the lanes at every other race.

But more teardowns are indeed needed. We had one car that beat us for class, was running illegal, determined much later, and didnt get torn down at that race. That same car, running an illegal engine, got us several horsepower hits too.

David

The New Hemi Guy

12-10-2011, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark Ruset

You ain't going to stop cheating so don't beat your head against a wall. What needs to be done is enforce the safety rules. I can tell you from my own experience, that the last time an NHRA Tech guy asked me to place my transmission in gear and attempt to start the engine was back in 2007 at Bradenton. I wonder how many cars are lacking the neutral safety switches. Safety right now is what we should concern ourselves about.

I obviously didnt tech your car this year.

I asked every driver this year to do this at the races I worked tech. Many said I was the FIRST to ever ask them to do that. Some guys looked at me like I was joking. Several almost flatout refused. Many thanked me for being thorough. Even sent a few back to the trailer because the neutral safety didnt work. Since I work tech AND safety I might look at things differently.

THE LEGEND · 12-10-2011, 11:51 PM

Back in the 80's IHRA would randomly pick either S-SS-or Modified. All class winners/qualifiers would go to tech. I remember several times we had to teardown at those races.
Chip

boster · 12-11-2011, 12:03 AM

Run what you brung , Limited tech , cubic inch and carb or trottle body super charger size for engine claimed for that year forget the rest . Nothing is stock anymore and nothing is super stock either . Tech cars when you ckeck in , when you win class and if you win or RU race

This would save the sanctioning bodies a lot of grief and the racers would sort it out on the track

Billy Nees · 12-11-2011, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by boster

Run what you brung , Limited tech , cubic inch and carb or trottle body super charger size for engine claimed for that year forget the rest . Nothing is stock anymore and nothing is super stock either . Tech cars when you ckeck in , when you win class and if you win or RU race

This would save the sanctioning bodies a lot of grief and the racers would sort it out on the track

Bo, I'm sure you've run this one past your broker already because even you won't last long under those rules. Not to mention, when it goes away for lack of participation in a couple of years it's an expensive bracket car. Or maybe you could just sit on it for 20 years and restore it for B-J.
If it gets that bad I still like my idea, engine has to look stock, stock hood, 9" tire, no class designation, no heads-up. Everyone just dials in and races. We could just call the whole thing "Stock". Or ET-2.

chris tinberg · 12-11-2011, 10:09 AM

OK guys ,wonderful concepts here .the problems with cheaters is if enough people cheat ie.e- legal crankshafts,NHRA just makes em legal so they won't get sued and don't forget cylinder heads that got ruined about 30 years ago . i am all for policing the rules but some times we have to ask ourselves "whats the damn point" !chris

danny waters sr · 12-11-2011, 10:27 AM

Just run it til they make it s/ss combo then eventually it will all go away and then we will all be bracket racing with one other option and that is QUIT !......It is coming and not as far away as you think either...

jmcarter · 12-11-2011, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Billy Nees

Bo, I'm sure you've run this one past your broker already because even you won't last long under those rules. Not to mention, when it goes away for lack of participation in a couple of years it's an expensive bracket car. Or maybe you could just sit on it for 20 years and restore it for B-J.
If it gets that bad I still like my idea, engine has to look stock, stock hood, 9" tire, no class designation, no heads-up. Everyone just dials in and races. We could just call the whole thing "Stock". Or ET-2.

Billy, you do know that Bo is in a "lucrative" business...not many will be able to outspend him.

Pvt Parts · 12-11-2011, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by boster

Run what you brung , Limited tech , cubic inch and carb or trottle body super charger size for engine claimed for that year forget the rest . Nothing is stock anymore and nothing is super stock either . Tech cars when you ckeck in , when you win class and if you win or RU race

This would save the sanctioning bodies a lot of grief and the racers would sort it out on the track

Getting closer to that every day.

12-12-2011, 11:26 AM

If it gets to that, I feel sorry for the poor bastard who bought a 100k stocker to just bracket race it. What a waste of money. Just build some stock Camaro with a PG and forget about it. I say eliminate the class and have a nice day before it becomes an all run all dial class .

12-10-2011, 06:29 PM	#1
NewHemi Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Ohio Posts: 472 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: All major event s/ss winners undrgo tech inspection The way schedules are set up for most Stock and Super Stock races is that there is no time before the races to tear down. We tore down before the record run attemp in Las Vegas because the way that race is set up, we weren't scheduled to run until very late in the day instead of the usual 8:00 am call to the lanes at every other race. But more teardowns are indeed needed. We had one car that beat us for class, was running illegal, determined much later, and didnt get torn down at that race. That same car, running an illegal engine, got us several horsepower hits too. David The New Hemi Guy

12-10-2011, 11:51 PM	#3
THE LEGEND VIP Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Fayetteville, n.c. Posts: 1,411 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: All major event s/ss winners undrgo tech inspection Back in the 80's IHRA would randomly pick either S-SS-or Modified. All class winners/qualifiers would go to tech. I remember several times we had to teardown at those races. Chip

12-11-2011, 12:03 AM	#4
boster Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: usa Posts: 958 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: All major event s/ss winners undrgo tech inspection Run what you brung , Limited tech , cubic inch and carb or trottle body super charger size for engine claimed for that year forget the rest . Nothing is stock anymore and nothing is super stock either . Tech cars when you ckeck in , when you win class and if you win or RU race This would save the sanctioning bodies a lot of grief and the racers would sort it out on the track __________________ Bo Kenney Last edited by boster; 12-11-2011 at 12:07 AM.

12-11-2011, 10:09 AM	#6
chris tinberg Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 14 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: All major event s/ss winners undrgo tech inspection OK guys ,wonderful concepts here .the problems with cheaters is if enough people cheat ie.e- legal crankshafts,NHRA just makes em legal so they won't get sued and don't forget cylinder heads that got ruined about 30 years ago . i am all for policing the rules but some times we have to ask ourselves "whats the damn point" !chris

12-11-2011, 10:27 AM	#7
danny waters sr VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: lagrange,nc Posts: 2,224 Likes: 1 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: All major event s/ss winners undrgo tech inspection Just run it til they make it s/ss combo then eventually it will all go away and then we will all be bracket racing with one other option and that is QUIT !......It is coming and not as far away as you think either... __________________ Danny Waters, Sr / 73 Duster "340"

12-12-2011, 11:26 AM	#10
Todd Hoven Guest Posts: n/a	Re: All major event s/ss winners undrgo tech inspection If it gets to that, I feel sorry for the poor bastard who bought a 100k stocker to just bracket race it. What a waste of money. Just build some stock Camaro with a PG and forget about it. I say eliminate the class and have a nice day before it becomes an all run all dial class .