Go david barton

[Rich Biebel]

There always was an ugly side to Class racing and it's alive and well here in 2011

In my Jr Stock days people got threatend and more.....and I have seen it and been involved in it.....

These new cars and the way NHRA has accepted their BOGUS hp ratings is fueling the fires......

There was always the "have's and have nots".....but now Stock is basically "Have's" period......and all you "have not's" get lost....

Rediculous.....

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by boster

X tech , sit your a** on the porch , bitch on the computer like a old woman cause you got no balls to race or back up your BS. You know you took the pay off"s

Bo Kenney.
Live from Indy

Yep....sure do and he dosent work for IHRA anymore either.He quit to then screwed up with the law. Have a good race.

[Glenn Hayes]

Good to hear that David slammed the pedal to the metal, I hope they all do it !

[Peter Ash]

Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN

9.676 in A/SA with an 09 DP. Rd. #3. 1.324 under for number one slot. One bad hot rod and someone who believes in pushing down on the gas pedal.

If you Do truly believe it was run all out. Think again!

[Tom P]

If you can run a second under without having to do anything to a stock car you deserve twice the HP hit.
The front wheel drive turbo cars with engines that came apart the first time only for record teardown are replaced by the new cars.

Look down the qualifying order. You have to get the #22 before you get a traditional stock combo.

Nothing wrong with having new cars or FWD stuff as long as they are factored properly... and maybe AAA/Stock added!

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by Peter Ash

If you Do truly believe it was run all out. Think again!

Dosent matter what I believe.....He and the other 6.1's with automatic are now AA/SA cars ONLY or S/S. Of course someone could always put a stick in one and kick butt.

[Steve Hagberg]

Well it looks like the 6.1 is actually still alive as a '10 model in A/SA with a 7.51 factor, they will just need to add 180 lbs. This should still make them a competitive combination. The '09 model with a lighter shipping weight will go to AA/SA. Welcome back guys.
Steve

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by Steve Hagberg

Well it looks like the 6.1 is actually still alive as a '10 model in A/SA with a 7.51 factor, they will just need to add 180 lbs. This should still make them a competitive combination. The '09 model with a lighter shipping weight will go to AA/SA. Welcome back guys.
Steve

I think its about time for you guys with old car combos to come off your "high horse" and run some more IHRA where the new bogus HP cars are run in their own class. At least until NHRA gets the message. If not......then enjoy the screwing your getting.

Right On Bo!!

Originally Posted by boster

X tech man you are full of yourself and don't have a clue what your talking about . I bought a 2008 mustang , spent money working on it . Took it to the track and run it has hard has I can . It runs 1.05 - 1.10 under and its 50lbs over weight . How is that car so over factored ? the motor has not been tricked out (yet) but that has nothing to do with the car being under factored from Ford or NHRA.

I also have a 2012 super cobra jet , picked it up from Tasac ford , had it tuned and it runs .97- 1.02 under in factory trim , and is 25 lbs over weight , and the motor has not been tricked out .Again how is this car so under factored ?

Another thought , who would buy these cars if they were slow ? so they need to be fast to sell . I no your sitting at home and not here , but here at the races there are a bunch of young guy racing new cars which is good for the sport

So to me as some one actually who races these car's they don't seem like they are that under rated from the factory . And every time I go 1.00 under AHFS kicks in and keeps track of it .

For the record I leaned my SS/BA car out to trying to go faster and burned the rings up in the car and withdrew from the race to let someone else have my spot to race . The car did not blow up and its still running its just got 35% on the leak down gage

I talked with David and Ray in the lanes and they stated the car would go 1.50 under but tuned it back, so again most of you guys posting here don't no what your are talking about for the simple reason that your not here racing.

I tip my hat to David and Ray Barton for the run they made ,they worked on that combo for 2 years and made it count and they will sell motors on Monday for there efforts.

The main issue with new vs old is technology and better parts and you cant stop car companies from building better cars . It would be UN American to penalize these cars and racers who buy them just because they are moving forward

Lastly , when you were a tech man was anything really stock ? You take credit for Top Stock in IHRA but when I started racing that class they were all cheating and no one did nothing about it including you . X tech man get a race car and race or shut the ***k up . There are plenty of guy racing well into their 70"s and even a top fuel guy 84 all of whom I respect and enjoy racing with and hope I will be able to do the same.

As long as you race everyone should voice their opinions , non racer should stop bitching about things they no nothing about . X tech man have you driven a new ford , Mopar or Chevy lately they are all great American cars

Bo Kenney
Live from INDY

[Evan Smith]

Kmachine,

email me your phone number (evan.smith@sorc.com) and i will gladly call you and tell you why i shut off at the 1,000 the first run.

I ran it flat out most other runs. Our quickest of the weekend was 9.47/141 mph.

Evan