How does a 428W crate motor run regular SS?

[davidhuff]

Originally Posted by Jeff Colvert

Just wondering how these new engine combos run in regular SS classes and not GT. I don't think the 2010 Mustang came from the Ford store with a 428 or 352 crate motors?

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[david ring]

If you are wondering how this can happen, just look at which vehicle is the official vehicle of the NHRA?

[Jim Kaekel]

If you are wondering how this can happen, just look at which vehicle is the official vehicle of the NHRA?

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[Marvin Robinson]

Originally Posted by jim kaekel

if you are wondering how this can happen, just look at which vehicle is the official vehicle of the nhra?

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[goinbroke2]

Originally Posted by david ring

If you are wondering how this can happen, just look at which vehicle is the official vehicle of the NHRA?

WAAAAH, WAAAAH, WAAAAH!!!
YOU WOULDN'T BE CRYING SO LOUD IF IT WAS GM THOUGH WOULD YOU!

I agree if it doesn't come from the factory, it shouldn't be in regular SuperStock. But to take pot shots at nhra and blame ford when nhra did the same things when gm was the flavour of the week (year after year) and there was no bitching is not only bias but blatently obvious favouritism.
I get it, lots on here are anti-ford. Fine.
This should be a "this isn't right"
Not a "waaah, I hate ford, they get special treatment"

The obvious question is, how does a crate motor fit into a SuperStocker?
Answer, in Modified or GT...actually, how does it fit in GT either when GT is regular SS motors in a newer/different body? This isn't a regular SS motor that has been moved to a different body, it was never a SS motor in the first place...hmmmm

[Alan Roehrich]

Originally Posted by goinbroke2

WAAAAH, WAAAAH, WAAAAH!!!
YOU WOULDN'T BE CRYING SO LOUD IF IT WAS GM THOUGH WOULD YOU!

B.S., no one is crying, they're stating plain facts. The cars are bogus, the factors are bogus, and the basic character and structure of the class was completely altered in order to make it happen, something that was NEVER done for GM. That ain't all that was done, either, several people who were friends of the Stock and Super Stock racers were run over by NHRA in order to make it happen.

When you can show us a GM car, and engine, that was NEVER produced for street use, and factored over 100 HP soft, then come back with your tired lame B.S. about everyone being upset just because it is Ford and Chrysler, instead of GM. That line of crap is a complete joke, not to mention a total farce and a fabrication.

For example, the ZL-1 Camaro, 69 units built, sold, and certified legal for street use, was removed from the guide, only in the past few years was it returned to the guide. The 67 Corvette L-88, 36 units sold and certified for street use, and several others produced and sent out the back door of GM as complete vehicles, was removed from the guide, and still has not been returned to the guide. Yeah, GM discouraged buyers from driving both of them on the street, but they were real, legal, federally certified vehicles, delivered from the factory, and legal to license and drive on the street as delivered. There hasn't been a Drag Pack Challenger yet certified for street use by Chrysler, never mind 36 of them. The fact is, a 67 L-88 Corvette is far closer to street legal and the original intent and character of NHRA Stock Eliminator than ANY of the new factory cars.

Yeah, go ahead, trot out the same lame tired tripe about the 98 LT-1 cars while you're at it. The fact is, the 98 F body cars were certified street legal, and so was the LT-1 engine. GM even had the LT-1 in the owner's manual of the 98 F body cars showing intent to produce. There's no competitive advantage to a 98 F body with an LT-1, they aren't a bit faster than a 97 F body with an LT-1. Try making that statement about the new factory bogus crate motor cars without lying. Good luck.

[Billy Nees]

Thanks Alan, you beat me to it!

[doug schriener]

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich

B.S., no one is crying, they're stating plain facts. The cars are bogus, the factors are bogus, and the basic character and structure of the class was completely altered in order to make it happen, something that was NEVER done for GM. That ain't all that was done, either, several people who were friends of the Stock and Super Stock racers were run over by NHRA in order to make it happen.

When you can show us a GM car, and engine, that was NEVER produced for street use, and factored over 100 HP soft, then come back with your tired lame B.S. about everyone being upset just because it is Ford and Chrysler, instead of GM. That line of crap is a complete joke, not to mention a total farce and a fabrication.

For example, the ZL-1 Camaro, 69 units built, sold, and certified legal for street use, was removed from the guide, only in the past few years was it returned to the guide. The 67 Corvette L-88, 36 units sold and certified for street use, and several others produced and sent out the back door of GM as complete vehicles, was removed from the guide, and still has not been returned to the guide. Yeah, GM discouraged buyers from driving both of them on the street, but they were real, legal, federally certified vehicles, delivered from the factory, and legal to license and drive on the street as delivered. There hasn't been a Drag Pack Challenger yet certified for street use by Chrysler, never mind 36 of them. The fact is, a 67 L-88 Corvette is far closer to street legal and the original intent and character of NHRA Stock Eliminator than ANY of the new factory cars.

Yeah, go ahead, trot out the same lame tired tripe about the 98 LT-1 cars while you're at it. The fact is, the 98 F body cars were certified street legal, and so was the LT-1 engine. GM even had the LT-1 in the owner's manual of the 98 F body cars showing intent to produce. There's no competitive advantage to a 98 F body with an LT-1, they aren't a bit faster than a 97 F body with an LT-1. Try making that statement about the new factory bogus crate motor cars without lying. Good luck.

A most excellent post.