Class versus brackets winning a round

[Matt Welker]

I got a few of those Class (not eliminator) Wally trophies, can you get one of those bracket racing? Please tell me where. I don't remember any shoe polish on my car during those Class runs, was I bracket racing? I'm confused......

If its just a bracket race, what am I doing wrong? Someone, please help. I lost a few of them "heads up" rounds this year during the eliminator, was it because I didn't have any shoe polish on the window for those runs? Since it's just a bracket race, someone please help me with my dial in my next heads up run, please..........pretty please....Also, I can't figure out how the other person broke out more, going further under that dial/index line on the time slip, and still beat me in a "bracket race"....maybe I should just give this **** up....its too confusing.....

When I go to a race with Class, I go to win Class first, then the eliminator (sorry Billy, but on the bright side there are still some young racers still performance oriented or maybe we just hate our money). Some chose differently and that is fine, some have different goals, but it isn't just a bracket race. There were lots of heads up runs this year for the guys chasing points that had a real impact, just like the previous year.

[Sean Cour]

Originally Posted by Matt Welker

I got a few of those Class (not eliminator) Wally trophies, can you get one of those bracket racing? Please tell me where. I don't remember any shoe polish on my car during those Class runs, was I bracket racing? I'm confused......

If its just a bracket race, what am I doing wrong? Someone, please help. I lost a few of them "heads up" rounds this year during the eliminator, was it because I didn't have any shoe polish on the window for those runs? Since it's just a bracket race, someone please help me with my dial in my next heads up run, please..........pretty please....Also, I can't figure out how the other person broke out more, going further under that dial/index line on the time slip, and still beat me in a "bracket race"....maybe I should just give this **** up....its too confusing.....

When I go to a race with Class, I go to win Class first, then the eliminator (sorry Billy, but on the bright side there are still some young racers still performance oriented or maybe we just hate our money). Some chose differently and that is fine, some have different goals, but it isn't just a bracket race. There were lots of heads up runs this year for the guys chasing points that had a real impact, just like the previous year.

Nice post Matt!

[Michael Kilduff]

Originally Posted by Ed Wright

What is a 4.50-5.50 car?

Ed,

Chip is referring to fast 1/8 mile bracket cars. I live in the same area as Chip and starting in the mid 80's the cars got too fast for most of the tracks in central and eastern NC as they were built in the late 50's and early 60's, so everything went to half track racing due to lack of shutdown area. Racers started building their cars for 1/8th only and as other new tracks were built or revamped they were designed for 1/8 mile only. Aside from Rockingham I think only Fayetteville has 1/4 mile capability in NC anymore for regular brackets and there are at least 15 tracks I can name in NC alone-all 1/8 mile. One track in Jacksonville tried 1000 ft for a couple of events 10 years ago and car counts were down and racers complained about having to change the gears in their cars, so they went back to the 660. I think one track is only 500 feet or so.

Quite a few rear engine dragsters here locally running 4.20-4.60 and door cars in the 4.70-5.30 et range in the 1/8th.

[JOE ZOOM]

BIG difference between class racing and brackets.Bracket racers get to leave with the big check or cash in hand and class racers have to jump thur hoops to get payed.

joe mocci

[randy wilson]

In perfect air we can run .75 under, in just good air, .6 under. We are not hitters but would quit if it went to just dial in, no tech.

[Dick Butler]

Interesting comments which pretty well point out that Most love the class challenge of making a vehicle with RULES go as quick as possible.
Some point out the weak point of having too many possible classes where yes you can be the worlds fastest but of 3 cars on earth very little hype or recognition. This seems to point out the BAD part of too many classes. A back door comment for combining classes or limited numbers of possible classes. Then at least the 20 guys in the country racing the same combo knows you are good if you win or set the record. Today who knows the names of the record holders? who cares unless its your class.. I only check dragster to see what my competitors ran in their races as a gauge of my performance.
We all see a win as a win but a high % appreciate class wins better. Then there is Jeff who seems to mis understand the poll intent as bringing down class. No it was pointed at showing the challenge of fastest car (of whatever form) drives most S and SS racers. Would making fewer classes and "forcing " a limited kind of cars or combinations add anything? to the greater good? of the Class racing by causing MORE of it? Class at Indy is the only true place enough current cars can enter at one time. What if an event with 80 entries in S or SS had 10 cars per class? Wherever you raced.

[Chad Rhodes]

Originally Posted by THE LEGEND

Bill,
Compare apples to apples here.
There are stockers for sale all day long and the majority are $20,000 up for a 9 inch tire no-electronics race car.
A 9 inch tire bracket car is half that price.

Yes a 4.50-5.50 bracket car will cost you much more than that. I will give you that point in the argument.

Let me ask you a question. When you converted over to a BBC how much did that motor cost you? In fact I think you have one for sale don't you. I will bet you 75% of the no electronics cars around here cost less than your motor!!!

And that right there is half the reason it worries me to go bracket racing sometimes. There is some serious junk at most local tracks, I'm not saying all are or even 20%, but there are some cars that I flat out wouldn't want in the other lane. I have never, not even once felt that way in Stock or SS.

For me building a bracket car is easy, follow less than a page worth of safety rules and that's it. What's the fun in that??? Class racers get as much enjoyment out of their cars themselves as they do driving them. I'm not saying that bracket racing is easy, just that mechanically, they are easy. No challenge at all. Hell i could have a nice C5 corvette to drive every day, that would be a great bracket car.

[Daran Summerton]

Stock - Super Stock is an addiction like it or not, quite possibly as strong as drugs, or gambling. Everyone has different levels of addiction and bank accounts has a affect on this issue. I currently am looking at running a points race and the Gators and that's about it only because I consider that an expense that would incur on any weekend getaaway. I use to run every Divisional and 3-4 Nationals but there is ZERO incentative for me to go out and make my car any faster to win maybe $200. It is a shame because I love class and the people who really try and work on their cars. The addiction is no longer what it once was and whether people realize it or not the same people who bitch none stop on here is just a natural reaction in their addiction withdrawls. See ya in the lanes, when I can.

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by Daran Summerton

Stock - Super Stock is an addiction like it or not, quite possibly as strong as drugs, or gambling. Everyone has different levels of addiction and bank accounts has a affect on this issue. I currently am looking at running a points race and the Gators and that's about it only because I consider that an expense that would incur on any weekend getaaway. I use to run every Divisional and 3-4 Nationals but there is ZERO incentative for me to go out and make my car any faster to win maybe $200. It is a shame because I love class and the people who really try and work on their cars. The addiction is no longer what it once was and whether people realize it or not the same people who bitch none stop on here is just a natural reaction in their addiction withdrawls. See ya in the lanes, when I can.

That about says it all.

[Tony Janes]

I agree. Hit it right in the spot that hurts.